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The Audio Long Read

From the archive – Spain’s Watergate: inside the corruption scandal that changed a nation

The Audio Long Read

The Guardian

Society & Culture

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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We are raiding the Audio Long Read archives to bring you some classic pieces from years past, with new introductions from the authors. This week, from 2019: The Gürtel case began with one Madrid mogul. Over the next decade, it grew into the biggest corruption investigation in Spain’s recent history, sweeping up hundreds of corrupt politicians and businessmen – and shattering its political system. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod

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0:00.0

This is the Guardian.

0:10.3

This article contains strong language.

0:14.3

Hi, my name is Sam Edwards. I'm a freelance journalist and I wrote the Guardian Longread

0:20.1

Spain's Watergate inside the corruption scandal that changed the nation.

0:23.6

I first became interested in this case as a way to understand some other changes that were

0:30.7

happening in Spanish politics at the time. I'd been covering politics for a number of years and

0:36.4

I'd seen in several elections how the traditional two-party system was giving away to a new form of

0:43.6

politics where we've seen lots of smaller parties and a roading trust in the traditional parties.

0:49.1

One of the reasons that this had happened, one of the main drivers was the financial crisis,

0:54.8

but also a particular anger at a perception of widespread corruption in the political class.

1:00.7

In 2018, a verdict came down in the corruption case I wrote about, which led to the toppling

1:09.4

of the Conservative government at the time. That obviously showed the impact this case had,

1:15.0

but it was also possible to go back and look at how it had begun 10 years earlier and what had

1:20.0

led up to that point. What drew me to the article in particular was some of the people involved and

1:26.6

some of the stakes that they ran. The main whistleblower at the centre of the article, Jose Luis

1:32.1

Plenios, secretly recorded other political figures in the party over several years to try and

1:40.0

gather evidence of this corruption scandal, a considerable risk to himself. He did that in Spain

1:45.9

where there is no law protecting whistleblowers and he took on a significant risk for himself.

1:50.5

This shows that it's important that we need to have a certain level of protection for whistleblowers

1:56.1

since there's been a little bit of progress in Spain, but not that much. It's very interesting to look

2:00.8

at public's response to political corruption. Political corruption is obviously

2:06.3

very harmful in many ways. It's a misuse of public money, most obviously, but it also erodes

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