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From the archive: football’s relationship with gambling – Football Weekly Extra

Football Weekly

The Guardian

Soccer, Sports

4.69K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In October 2020 , Max Rushden was joined by Barry Glendenning and Philippe Auclair to examine the game’s ‘gamblification’. We hear from James Grimes, who was a gambling addict for 12 years, Rob Davies, the Guardian’s business reporter specialising in the gambling industry, and Brigid Simmonds, chair of the Betting and Gaming Council. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/footballweeklypod

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0:00.0

The Guardian.

0:08.0

Hello pod fans at Max here. Hi Barry. Hello.

0:12.0

Can you be bothered to do another intro? We've already done about ten.

0:16.0

Sure. Carry on. Okay, fine. Carry on.

0:18.0

Okay, Marvellous. This one is about gambling from the start of the season.

0:24.0

I started from the fact that I took the money from a betting company.

0:30.0

We discussed it on the pod. We thought it was probably all right.

0:34.0

Then we did a proper investigation into it and it probably isn't all right.

0:40.0

I don't know. I was so conflicted that I don't want to give away the ending.

0:44.0

But I don't take money anymore. A lot of it was to do with this conversation that we had.

0:50.0

In many ways Barry, that makes me a hero. Yes. You're a hero on a number of levels.

0:56.0

I mean, we spoke about this between ourselves.

1:00.0

I wouldn't refuse to take the bookie Shekel personally.

1:06.0

You do. I respect your stance. But it was a very interesting discussion.

1:14.0

I have to say. Here is the pod.

1:16.0

On the panel today, Barry Glen Denning. Hey, Baz.

1:18.0

Hey, Baz. Hey, Max. And Filippo Claire. Hi, Filipp.

1:20.0

Hello, Max. All right. Let's get on with this.

1:24.0

Firstly, we're going to hear from James Grimes. He was a gambling addict for 12 years.

1:28.0

He's now two and a half years into his recovery.

1:30.0

In 2019, he founded the big step to change the narrative around gambling in football.

1:34.0

He works with the charity gambling with lives, which was set up by

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