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The Audio Long Read

From the archive: Do we need a new theory of evolution?

The Audio Long Read

The Guardian

Society & Culture

4.22.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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We are raiding the Guardian long read archives to bring you some classic pieces from years past, with new introductions from the authors. This week, from 2022: A new wave of scientists argues that mainstream evolutionary theory needs an urgent overhaul. Their opponents have dismissed them as misguided careerists – and the conflict may determine the future of biology By Stephen Buranyi. Read by Andrew McGregor. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:09.0

The Guardian Archive Long Read.

0:20.4

Hi, my name is Stephen Barani. I'm a writer and editor at The Guardian, and I'm the author of

0:24.9

The Long Read, Do We Need a New Theory of Evolution, published in 2022? So in a previous life,

0:33.2

I did a lot of training in biology, microbiology, and biochemistry. So I've always been interested in evolution.

0:39.3

It seems like every couple decades or so, a good number of scientists, researchers in the various fields of biology,

0:48.1

sort of come together and get this idea of whether evolution, the core theory of the biological sciences, needs a rethink.

0:55.4

And so it's something I've been thinking about for a long time.

0:57.9

I've never gone out and evaluated any of the sort of claims, but you'd see them pop up.

1:03.2

There'd been a lot of noise around a group, variously calling themselves the new

1:06.8

evolutionary synthesis or extended evolutionary synthesis who were making quite controversial

1:11.9

claims that evolution was sort of a not a dead theory but a haggard theory in need of renewal

1:18.6

and that they had the key to that.

1:21.1

And both their claims and the sort of vehement denunciations by mainstream evolutionary

1:26.4

biologists or sort of other evolutionary biologists

1:29.0

are quite strong, quite interesting. And so I thought it might make the basis for a good piece.

1:33.7

I'm not sure a huge amount has changed. I mean, part of that is because it's very hard to

1:38.3

create a killer experiment that shows evolution is true or not true. And as such, this sort of stuff moves fairly slowly.

1:47.0

But the sort of main controversy and the main actors in the story have still sort of gone on,

1:53.0

taking snipes at each other and making their arguments.

1:56.0

So it's very much a live concern.

1:58.0

And I think the piece is as relevant today as it was when it was written.

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