From Taylor Swift to the Emmys, lessons in celebrity, with The Ankler’s Janice Min
Masters of Scale
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🗓️ 17 September 2024
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
While Shōgun, Hacks, and Baby Reindeer bask in their success at The Emmys, the awards reveal deeper lessons about TV’s future. Janice Min, co-founder and CEO of The Ankler, guides us through the key storylines, from Disney to HBO to Netflix. We also dig deep on Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris and what it says about the politics of celebrity in 2024 — for stars and for CEOs.
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| 0:00.0 | Bob Safian here, host of Rapid Response. |
| 0:03.0 | I want to tell you about another podcast called Last Week in AI. |
| 0:07.2 | It's hosted by Andre Karenkov, a Stanford PhD and lead AI engineer at Aestrocade, |
| 0:14.4 | and Jeremy Harris, CEO at Gladstone AI, |
| 0:18.0 | a national security company. |
| 0:20.1 | Each week they discuss the most interesting developments in AI tools, business and research. |
| 0:25.3 | It's become a top 30 technology podcast in the US, the UK, and Canada. |
| 0:30.8 | Find last week in AI wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:36.1 | How many starters can withstand a message from Trump on truth social like saying I hate |
| 0:42.4 | Taylor Swift capital capital letters, |
| 0:44.3 | exclamation points. Like, very few stars can psychically handle that or would |
| 0:48.8 | feel that their business could handle that. I think the risks are being made clear, |
| 0:54.0 | you know, whether you're a CEO of The Ancler, the insider business media covering |
| 1:08.2 | Hollywood and Celebrity. Janice and I caught up the morning after the Emmy Awards to talk about what TV's biggest night revealed about the entertainment business. |
| 1:18.0 | And we also talked about Taylor Swift's endorsement of Pamela Harris and how the shifting pressure on celebrities to take political |
| 1:25.6 | positions echoes the pressure on CEOs. |
| 1:29.3 | Along the way, we touch down Disney's evolving strategy, the decline in HBO's brand, and why stars like Patrick |
| 1:36.4 | Mahomes and Caitlin Clark may be hesitant to follow in Taylor's political footsteps. |
| 1:42.0 | Plus, Janice explores the vagaries of what makes something a hit, |
| 1:46.0 | whether that's a politician like Harris or an Emmy-winning darling like Netflix's baby reindeer. |
| 1:52.0 | It's fun and revealing, so let's get to it. I'm Bob Safian, and this is |
| 1:58.2 | rapid response. I'm Bob Safian. I'm here with Janice Min of the Ancler. |
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