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Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

From Student to Suspect: Did Kohberger Turn Ramsland’s Teachings into Murder

Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

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🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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From Student to Suspect Did Kohberger Turn Ramsland’s Teachings into Murder
Could Bryan Kohberger have transformed from criminology student to accused killer as a way to "show his work" to a professor he idolized? That’s the chilling theory raised by journalist Howard Blum—and in this episode of Hidden Killers, retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke is here to dig into it.

Dr. Katherine Ramsland, Kohberger’s former professor and one of the foremost experts on serial killers, has never commented publicly on her former student. But Blum’s reporting alleges that Kohberger emailed her before and after the murders—and that the killings may have been a twisted performance piece to earn her intellectual admiration.

Dreeke brings his behavioral profiling expertise to dissect this theory. What kind of mindset does it take to commit a quadruple homicide as a form of symbolic achievement? And what role does ego—particularly in academically driven narcissists—play in escalating obsession into violence?

Together, we examine whether Kohberger was trying to become the embodiment of what he studied. Was he staging a real-life case to rival those in Ramsland’s books? Or was it something even darker—a final exam, so to speak, intended to impress the very person who taught him how to analyze the criminal mind?

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0:00.0

This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Brian Koberger.

0:08.4

Was he doing this for himself or what was the reason for this?

0:12.3

You know, because it seems like it was almost a study in itself for him.

0:16.9

But if it's to impress someone that he's been studying under, and so he can hear about how

0:23.1

smart this killer was by the person that he considers to be just, you know, the highest up

0:29.0

in their craft of understanding these things and teaching about them and studying them,

0:34.6

that would be probably the ultimate high for Brian Coburger.

0:38.9

A lot of conjection.

0:39.8

And so the way it works is that he wouldn't be doing it for her.

0:43.6

So let's remember, we're going psychopathy, BTK, he was going for that, that grandiosity

0:48.8

at that 30,000 foot level.

0:50.6

So the professor is a mere conduit to the 30,000 foot level where this becomes part of a

0:55.3

course of study. This becomes, and granted, it's not about her. He wasn't doing it for anyone but

1:00.7

himself. This is pure internal. I'm doing it for my own self. She just happens to be a very shiny

1:07.4

screwdriver, a tool in his toolbox to get him where he needs to be.

1:11.2

And she was giving him the emotional sparks that allowed him to say,

1:15.3

hey, you're going to be my conduit to the things that I need to feel.

1:19.7

And so that could, you know, Howard Bloom is an insightful guy.

1:23.0

There is no doubt.

1:24.7

I don't know if that's what his initial intent was with it.

1:27.7

But there is, but here's where it is. and this is why I thought of it this way.

1:30.9

There is something unusual and different with this relationship with the professor.

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