From Striving to Surrender: Working With God, Not for Him with Nathaneal Vossler on Exploring the Marketplace (S:5 - Ep 29)
Exploring the Marketplace
Shawn Bolz
4.8 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 19 January 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson tackle a struggle many leaders, creatives, and believers quietly carry: striving for God instead of working with God.
This episode features guest Nathaniel Vossler, former CFO turned founder of Rhema Now, an app designed to help believers engage in listening prayer, group intensives, and Spirit-led coaching. In early 2025, Nathaniel stepped away from the corporate world after sensing God’s clear call into a new season—building this platform alongside his wife while raising their growing family in Idaho.
Together, Shawn, Bob, and Nathaniel get practical about:
- Moving from pressure to presence
- Saying no to good things that aren’t God things
- Creating Spirit-led rhythms for your calendar and decisions
- Hearing God clearly in real business and life transitions
- Letting go of ego, overcommitment, and burnout
- Building sustainably with God, not just for Him
Shawn and Bob also share personal stories of burnout, overextension, and the hard-earned wisdom that comes from learning to surrender control and trust God’s pace. This episode is an honest, hope-filled invitation to trade striving for peace—and rediscover what it looks like to walk in true partnership with the Holy Spirit.
If you’re tired, driven, successful—but longing for peace—this conversation is for you.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Explore the Marketplace, a podcast all about how faith impacts our guest careers and lives. |
| 0:05.3 | I'm Sean Bowles here with my co-host. |
| 0:06.8 | I'm Bob Hastin, and we're here to bring you unfiltered, powerful conversations with industry leaders, |
| 0:12.2 | entrepreneurs, and culture shapers for living at their faith in extraordinary ways. |
| 0:16.7 | From a billion-dollar boardrooms to creative industries, we reveal how God is moving through |
| 0:21.2 | everyday ordinary people just like you. |
| 0:24.2 | And this podcast will give you courage, which is our goal. |
| 0:27.1 | Yeah, these are the stories you don't get to hear on Sundays. |
| 0:29.2 | Plus, we get to dive deep in the latest trends and business, finance, entertainment, and politics, |
| 0:34.0 | giving you real insight from a kingdom and biblical perspective. |
| 0:37.0 | This is where faith meets influence. |
| 0:39.0 | This is exploring the marketplace. |
| 0:45.5 | Welcome to exploring the marketplace. |
| 0:47.8 | Sean, I am Bob Hassan, and you are Sean Bold. |
| 0:52.4 | I am, and we're going to talk about some cool stuff today. |
| 0:54.7 | We have a great show for you. |
| 0:56.2 | And I have a question for you. |
| 0:57.2 | What if the reason you're exhausted isn't the size you're calling, but the source of your |
| 1:01.8 | effort. |
| 1:02.3 | So many people are exhausted. |
| 1:04.0 | As a matter of fact, there's just a study in Forbes as of 2025 that up to 75% of people |
| 1:10.5 | are exhausted because mostly the changes that are happening |
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