From Skeptic to Seeker: Tom's Journey of Faith (Special Podcast Highlight)
The Patrick Madrid Show
Relevant Radio
4.8 • 587 Ratings
🗓️ 24 May 2024
⏱️ 11 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of The Patrick Madrid Show, Patrick chats with Tom from Cookville, Tennessee, diving into the nitty-gritty of biblical interpretation and how Jesus gave his apostles the authority to teach.
Tom's Question: Tom wants to know where Jesus gave specific authority to interpret the Bible to someone or a group.
Patrick's Insightful Response
Matthew 28:19-20: Jesus, with all authority in heaven and earth, tells His apostles to make disciples of all nations. This includes baptizing and teaching them everything He commanded, sharing His divine authority with them.
Luke 10:16: Jesus tells His apostles, "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who rejects you, rejects me." Patrick says this shows Jesus giving His apostles the authority to teach and interpret Scriptures.
St. Paul's Example: Paul, even though not one of the original twelve apostles, often debated Jewish leaders on the correct interpretation of Scriptures, reinforcing the idea of apostolic authority.
Acts 17: The Bereans are praised for verifying Paul's teachings with the Scriptures, showing the importance of checking interpretations.
Acts 8: The story of Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch is another example where an apostle helps someone understand Scripture's true meaning.
Tom's Reflections: Tom, a Protestant, talks about how he seeks God's guidance in understanding the Bible and understanding divine truth. He feels like he doesn't completely fit into the mold of Protestant belief and doesn't know where to go. That's a hard place to be.
Patrick's Encouragement: Patrick offers Tom a book to dig deeper into these ideas, stressing that authoritative interpretation helps prevent misunderstandings.
A Friendly Challenge: While Tom claims that he'll never join the Catholic Church, Patrick teases him that many who once said they'd never become Catholic ended up joining the Church. He encourages Tom to stay open-minded and keep engaging with Catholic teachings.
Let's pray for Tom on his journey of seeking truth, that he will enter the fullness of the Catholic faith one day! Keep seeking truth, Tom!
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Patrick, I don't think I could ever become a Catholic. |
| 0:03.0 | You know what? |
| 0:03.8 | In a few years, you and I will probably have a good laugh. |
| 0:06.0 | We'll look back on this conversation. |
| 0:08.1 | And you'll say, oh, my gosh, I had no idea. |
| 0:13.9 | Let's go over to Cookville, Tennessee now and talk to Tom. |
| 0:16.7 | Good morning, Tom. |
| 0:18.8 | Hey, good morning, Patrick. |
| 0:20.4 | Yeah. |
| 0:20.9 | Private interpretation. |
| 0:22.7 | Where that Jesus gave that specific authority to an individual or a group. |
| 0:30.1 | And my question is, where did Jesus do that? |
| 0:33.7 | I can think of a number of places. |
| 0:35.7 | The first one that comes to my mind would be Matthew 28, |
| 0:39.9 | and that's verses 19 and 20, where Jesus says, all authority in heaven on earth has been given to me. |
| 0:46.7 | Go, therefore, into the whole world, make disciples of all nations, baptizing them, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. |
| 0:56.1 | So there's a grant of authority that Jesus associates with his own authority |
| 1:01.6 | over all things in the heavens and on the earth. |
| 1:04.7 | So he's granting a share of that authority to these apostles to teach in his name, |
| 1:09.5 | to preach and teach and interpret scripture |
| 1:12.0 | in his name. Because after all, who are they going first too? They're going to the Jews. |
| 1:17.0 | And so, as you know from reading the Pauline epistles, St. Paul did battle with the Jews and the |
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