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This Jungian Life Podcast

From SHAMANISM to JUNG: Understanding 'Loss of Soul'

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2023

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

As Jung’s anthropological studies expanded and his international travel exposed him to new cultures and ideas, he was taken by the concept of ‘loss of soul.’ 

A collapse of energy, a strange sudden alteration of personality, or episodes of blinding rage could signify a loss of soul from a shamanic perspective. The soul carries the animating and regulating forces as well as memory. In most traditions, it was expected to fly away upon death, much like the Egyptian Ba, depicted as a bird with a human head. Because the soul had an independent life, it might flee suddenly, leaving a listless body behind. The shaman’s task was to retrieve and escort the wandering soul into the body again.

In Michael Harner’s book The Way of the Shaman, he cataloged various ancient practices and distilled a small set of universal techniques. Soul retrieval involves tying a red string on the patient’s wrist and, with the help of one’s spiritual power animal, traveling to the inner worlds, identifying the lost soul by the red string also on its wrist, bringing it back to the waking world and blow it into the patient’s body. Loss of soul in this contemporary system is often associated with trauma, and the imagery is congruent with modern conceptualizations of dissociation.

Jung linked shamanic descriptions with the work of psychiatrist Janet and called “abaissement du niveau mental.” Jung described this as “a slackening of the tensity of consciousness, which might be compared to a low barometric reading, presaging bad weather. The tonus has given way, and this is felt subjectively as listlessness, moroseness, and depression. One no longer has any wish or courage to face the tasks of the day. One feels like lead because no part of one’s body seems willing to move, and this is due to the fact that one no longer has any disposable energy.”

In modern psychiatry, several clinical descriptions might be assigned to such despair and collapse, but those may not capture the psychospiritual depth of ‘loss of soul.’ For Jung, the soul carries creativity and grants meaning; it links us to the divine and represents all we could be if wholeness were possible. Whatever the cause, to be abandoned by one’s soul is devastating, and to be reunited, the greatest gift.

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0:00.0

Hello, this union lifeless nurse, this is Lisa Martiano, and I want to let you know that

0:05.1

I've had a couple of spots open up in my women's fairytale and yoga retreat that will

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be held in Central Pennsylvania the last weekend of September.

0:15.0

The weather should be gorgeous.

0:16.5

We might get a little early fall color.

0:19.9

We do yoga outside when it's warm enough that this beautiful platform down by the river

0:24.4

and we spend a couple of hours every day working through these fairytales that is just so rich

0:29.8

and it's always an incredible group of women.

0:33.4

We have fires at night where we do all kinds of crazy stuff.

0:39.4

So I hope you'll consider coming.

0:41.5

If you want to check it out, you can learn more by going to lisamarchiano.com and click

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on wellspring women's retreat.

0:49.0

So hopefully I'll see if you with you there, bye.

0:53.6

Welcome to this union life.

0:55.8

Happy good friends and union analysts, Lisa Martiano, Debra Stewart and Joseph Lee invite

1:01.4

you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological

1:06.3

perspective to important issues of the day.

1:11.1

I'm Lisa Martiano and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia.

1:14.9

I'm Joseph Lee and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

1:19.8

I'm Debra Stewart, a Jungian analyst and Cape Cod.

1:29.5

Today we're going to talk about a rather mysterious topic that Jung wrote about, inspired

1:36.3

particularly by his studies of ancient cultures.

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