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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

From Robert Margouleff | Shaping Sounds: Stevie Wonder, DEVO, the Synth Revolution and My Life Behind the Music

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Recently, we had visionary music producer Robert Margouleff on the show and today we're sharing an excerpt from his new audiobook, Shaping Sounds: Stevie Wonder, DEVO, the Synth Revolution and My Life Behind the Music. In legendary studios like Electric Lady and the Record Plant, Margouleff became a pioneering producer and engineer for artists like Billy Preston, Jeff Beck, DEVO, The Isley Brothers, and David Sanborn. A true sonic innovator, he was an early adopter of immersive audio and surround sound, developing new mixing techniques for home theaters that brought some of Hollywood’s biggest blockbusters to life. 

Here's a preview of the audiobook, where Margouleff talks about working with The Isley Brothers on their 3+3 album. If you want to hear more, check out Shaping Sounds: Stevie Wonder, DEVO, the Synth Revolution and My Life Behind the Music wherever you get audiobooks. You can use the code SOUNDS25 at pushkin.fm/shapingsounds to save 25% on the audiobook.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:10.7

Pushkin.

0:13.2

I hope you enjoyed our episode with iconic music producer and engineer

0:16.8

and author of the new audiobook shaping sounds,

0:19.9

Stevie Wonder, Devo, The Synth Revolution,

0:21.9

and my life behind the music, Robert Margilev. If you haven't heard it yet, be sure to check it out.

0:28.0

Today I'm sharing an excerpt from Shaping Sounds. Robert talks about working alongside not only

0:32.9

Stevie Wonder on his classic albums, but with artists like Minnie Riperton on her hit Loving You and the

0:38.3

Isley brothers on their 3 Plus 3 album, which brought together incredible guitar leads and

0:43.3

smooth vocals to blend old and new school R&B. Here's the clip, but if you want to hear more,

0:49.5

check out Shaping Sounds, Stevie One to Devo the synth revolution and my life behind the music

0:53.9

wherever you get

0:54.7

audiobooks. You can use the code Sounds 25, that's S-O-U-N-D-S-25, at Pushkin.fm-S-S-Shapeing

1:02.4

sounds to save 25% on the audiobook. Thanks for listening.

1:07.0

Chapter 13, Non-Stop Studio

1:10.9

While we were with Stevie, besides working on his own albums, we worked alongside him,

1:19.4

continuing as a team on two albums he produced, one for his ex-wife, Sarita Wright,

1:25.5

the other for Minnie Ripperton.

1:29.8

Serita Wright was a receptionist at the Motown offices in Detroit when Edward Holland, of the Holland Dozier Holland songwriting

1:35.5

team, heard her singing and was impressed enough that they had her sing on some demos.

1:41.9

She met Stevie in 1968, and they began dating about a year later. Their relationship

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