From Revisionist History: When Will Met Grace
Against the Rules with Michael Lewis
Pushkin Industries
4.4 • 9.9K Ratings
🗓️ 21 July 2022
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
We’re sharing a bonus episode from another Pushkin podcast, Revisionist History. Revisionist History is Malcolm Gladwell’s podcast about things misunderstood and overlooked. This season, Malcolm’s obsessed with experiments – natural experiments, scientific experiments, thought experiments. In this preview, Revisionist History does a deep dive into the 90s sitcom, Will and Grace. Will and Grace was quietly revolutionary in changing our collective beliefs around gay marriage. Malcolm explores the show’s role in the widespread acceptance of gay marriage and looks at how television’s ability to change public opinion has changed with modern-day streaming. You can hear more from Revisionist History at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/rh7?sid=atr.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin |
| 0:11.0 | Hey there against the rules listeners, Michael Lewis here. |
| 0:14.0 | They say people are traveling a lot this summer and I know I've been. |
| 0:18.0 | They say those people want more episodes of podcasts to listen to. |
| 0:22.0 | I feel a little guilty in that department, but fortunately I have something to offer you today. |
| 0:27.0 | A really delightful episode of another Pushkin show. |
| 0:31.0 | Revisionist history. |
| 0:33.0 | You might be familiar with Revisionist history. |
| 0:36.0 | It's hosted by my friend and bestselling author Malcolm Gladwell. |
| 0:40.0 | Malcolm helped to get against the rules started and now I get to return a little love. |
| 0:44.0 | His show is like nothing else out there. |
| 0:47.0 | It's fun, sometimes heartbreaking, always original. |
| 0:51.0 | The episode you're about to hear is a perfect example. |
| 0:54.0 | Malcolm's devoting this whole season of Revisionist history to experiments. |
| 0:59.0 | And here he's offering up a kind of thought experiment about television. |
| 1:04.0 | Nowadays we can find pretty much anything we want to watch on streaming platforms or YouTube. |
| 1:10.0 | I'm old enough to remember when you only had three maybe four choices of what to watch on TV. |
| 1:14.0 | It was all very top down and I have to admit maybe a little dull sometimes. |
| 1:20.0 | But in this episode Malcolm asks whether we lost something revolutionary when broadcast networks lost out to streaming. |
| 1:27.0 | The titles are clue when Will Met Grace. |
| 1:31.0 | Oh and fair warning it does get a bit raunchy. |
| 1:34.0 | As they used to say on TV viewer okay listener discretion is advised. |
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