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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

From Revisionist History: The Origin of “You” with John McWhorter

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Malcolm Gladwell sits down with the linguist John McWhorter, to discuss his new book, "Pronoun Trouble: The Story of Us in Seven Little Words." Among other things in their wide-ranging conversation, John makes an impassioned case for the return of “thou.”

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The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.

0:09.2

Recipients have done the improbable, the unexpected, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.

0:17.8

This medal is for the men who went down that day.

0:21.5

On Medal of Honor, stories of courage, you'll hear about these heroes and what their

0:26.2

stories tell us about the nature of bravery.

0:29.0

Listen to Medal of Honor on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

0:33.5

podcast.

0:41.2

Pushkin.

0:49.2

I was a fan of John McWhorter long before I met him for the first time.

0:52.0

McWhorter is a linguist at Columbia University

0:53.8

and a music lover and a New York Times columnist. Basically... before I met him for the first time. McCorder is a linguist at Columbia University,

0:57.1

and a music lover and a New York Times columnist,

0:59.1

basically a Renaissance man.

1:02.4

It was maybe 2019 when we first spoke.

1:05.6

At the time, I was working on something about Tom Bradley,

1:09.8

who was mayor of Los Angeles from 1973 to 1993.

1:14.8

And while I listened to old tapes of Bradley, I was struck by something I heard.

1:15.6

Listen.

1:17.7

There is nothing there to hide.

1:24.6

I want everybody to know that Tom Bradley's life has been an open book, and this is another demonstration of that.

1:26.3

Tom Bradley is black.

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