Okay, so what is this episode that has just popped into our feed? That was a good question,

beloved member of our audience. This is an episode that I taped with a podcast called Reveal.

And I want you to know about Reveal because Reveal is one of these institutions in the world of

investigative journalism, one of these entities that I think people should consume even more than

they do already. And I appeared on an episode of their weekly

franchise called More to the Story, where they had questions about how we do our jobs here,

as well as, you know, what I thought about Bad Bunny and the Super Bowl and capitalism,

and also the story we reported with Mother Jones and Madison Pauly about Riley Gaines,

which should also check out if you have not already. Anyway, this is me

talking to reveal. I hope you enjoy. The reason to have bad bunny at the Super Bowl is not

anything, I think, resembling a cultural, enlightened progressivism. It's merely you want an audience that can become customers.

But because Bad Bunny speaks Spanish, this is now wokeism. And I'm not like, this is, it's

capitalism. On this week's more to the story, veteran sports journalist Pablo Torre.

As the Super Bowl approaches, we talk about the NFL's recurring problems surrounding race

and how a flood of money is transforming sports in America.

Stay with us.

Music This is more to the story. I'm Al Letson. Just a few decades ago, investigative sports journalism was thriving. There were high-profile TV shows, national magazines,

and intrepid reporters around the country who went deep and connected the dots on some of the

most important issues in sports. But today, many of those outlets are gone or shells of what they

once were. And that's meant that sports in the U.S., one of the most

dominant elements of American culture, has often been left without probing journalism that

shines a light on athletes, owners, leagues, and the tens of billions of dollars they generate

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