From Rejection to Full Ride (Ep. 390)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.8 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 20 February 2023
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Nathan and Ben read the story of an applicant who improved his LSAT and received a full-ride scholarship offer from a school that had rejected him last year. The evidence mounts: every LSAT point is worth at least $10,000. Also on the show, the guys examine a Logical Reasoning question written by ChatGPT, explain how Loan Repayment Assistance Programs work, and encounter one of the turdiest Pearls vs. Turds submissions of all time.
0:00 - Parents’ Night - On March 9 at 7pm ET, Nathan will host a free class for parents so they can better understand the law school admissions process. Parents can register at lsatdemon.com/classes using their kids’ accounts or by creating their own Demon Free accounts.
3:44 - ChatGPT - What happens when you ask ChatGPT to write an LSAT question? Ben and Nathan review a Logical Reasoning question from the chatbot that misses the mark. Then they read a personal statement penned by ChatGPT. It’s not pretty.
14:59 - Scores Going Down - Demon student Kaitlyn feels that the more she studies, the worse she gets at the LSAT. The guys suspect that Kaitlyn is reading too much into a small sample size and encourage her to focus on one question at a time.
21:50 - Pearls vs. Turds - Nathan and Ben encounter an especially bad piece of LSAT advice. They implore listeners to cut the gimmicks and practice like they’ll play on the official test.
28:36 - Live Class Schedule - Demon student Colt asks how best to schedule his time with Demon Live classes. Ben and Nathan recommend picking one class every day or two and leaving plenty of time for self study.
33:46 - LRAPs - Nathan and Ben break down law schools’ Loan Repayment Assistance Programs. The guys tell listeners to do their research and to be extremely careful with such programs, which may simply kick debt further into the future.
50:09 - From Rejection to Full Ride - An anonymous listener shares a story of an applicant who improved their LSAT score and received a full-ride scholarship from a school that had previously rejected them. Ben and Nathan see this as further proof that every LSAT point is worth $10,000, sometimes more.
1:01:41 - Getting Off Waitlists - Listener Brad wonders if a better score on the April LSAT could help him get off the waitlists at several T14 schools. The guys tell Brad to withdraw his applications and reapply next cycle with a better LSAT score. If he follows that plan, Brad should have scholarship offers in hand by the end of 2023.
1:08:44 - An UGPA Miracle - Listener Kash convinced their old school to convert their Fs to Ws, saving their 3.9 GPA from dropping to a 3.3.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 390. The thinking else |
| 0:11.2 | podcast I'm Ben Olson with me is Nathan Fox. |
| 0:14.8 | We're the co-founders of El-Sat Demon.com and the El-Sat Demon Daily Podcast. |
| 0:19.6 | If you want to be El-Sat Famous, you can share news and ask questions on our website, that's thinking-L-Sat.com. |
| 0:26.5 | This is going to air on Monday, February 20th. |
| 0:30.0 | In less than a month, we're going to have a free event coming up, Nathan, you want to talk about that? |
| 0:36.1 | Yeah, just a couple weeks. |
| 0:37.0 | It's called Parents Night. |
| 0:38.1 | This was requested by one of our current students who said, hey, you know, I think that my folks would really benefit |
| 0:45.9 | from a lot of what you guys have to say. And I think sometimes students try to like translate what we say to their parents but their parents don't buy it. |
| 0:58.4 | But maybe your parents will buy it from me and Ben directly. |
| 1:02.2 | Both of us are going to be there. |
| 1:04.5 | We are going to talk about how law school scholarships work. |
| 1:07.2 | We're going to talk about the enormous power of the L-SAT |
| 1:11.7 | for getting those law school scholarships. |
| 1:13.7 | We actually have an example email later on the show today |
| 1:17.2 | where you'll hear yet again the transformative power |
| 1:20.4 | of a few more L-SAT points to your law school admissions and scholarships. |
| 1:25.4 | We'll talk a little bit about what the L-SAT tests, we'll talk about how the demon |
| 1:29.6 | approaches the L-SAT and then we will talk about our GLAD method for the timeline for your law school |
| 1:37.3 | applications and again that's GPA first then your L-SAT then apply then decide where you're going to go. |
| 1:44.0 | Yep. |
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