From Rant Bridges to Big Deals: Taylor Swift’s Songwriting Cred & New York Times Interview
13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast
Ana Szabo, Nick Adams, Amy Nichols and Lacey Gee
4.6 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Being a Swiftie can be chaotic at times but that’s why we have SwifTEAs to keep it all straight… or get it all wrong.
There’s a lot to cover in this episode, from Taylor Swift being named one of the greatest living songwriters in her New York Times feature to breaking down her actual songwriting process, we’re diving deep into all of the latest news and getting into some potential clownery.
We discuss her love for structure, alliteration, and the iconic “rant bridge,” plus the influences behind her style and some possible future collabs.
And Taylor Swift talking about her favorite song twists and the album that everyone slept on.. ICONIC!
Speaking of iconic, Taylor’s 2018 contract decision is finally paying off in a massive way, and it’s set to benefit artists across the industry. We explain what happened, why it matters, and how she continues to shift the business side of music.
We also get into her latest move to protect her voice and likeness from AI, why it’s happening now, and what it says about the future of music and media.
And what’s up with the mysterious countdown on her website that suddenly disappeared and what all could that mean? We covered that too in an episode posted over the weekend. Check out our previous SwifTEA to hear what we got right and what has since aged poorly.
What did we miss? What would you like to hear from us? There are lots of ways to reach us!
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| 0:00.0 | Yay, Media Group |
| 0:01.9 | 13 has been my lucky member for a while, |
| 0:06.8 | like it's always a sign of good things to come for me. |
| 0:09.7 | This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast, |
| 0:13.9 | breaking down every song, every Easter egg, |
| 0:17.2 | every era, and every theory. |
| 0:19.7 | Hosted by the biggest Swifties, Nick Adams, Anna Zabo, Amy Nichols, and Lacey G. |
| 0:27.8 | Welcome to 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast. I'm Nick Adams. |
| 0:31.6 | I'm Anna. Amy. And I'm Lacey G. |
| 0:34.1 | And there were so many things happening in the Swiftieverse this week that we have to do a little |
| 0:39.9 | Swiftie and talk about everything. |
| 0:42.0 | Let's go down the agenda of things we're going to talk about today, class. |
| 0:45.5 | We have her New York Times article. |
| 0:47.1 | Yes. |
| 0:47.5 | We have a wonderful deal that she made in her record contract that's going to benefit a lot of artists. |
| 0:52.7 | We have a mysterious countdown that's happening. |
| 0:56.7 | We have a whole bunch of different theories and things like that. |
| 0:59.3 | What else am I missing? |
| 1:00.6 | Her trademark. |
| 1:02.8 | She's trademarking something else. |
| 1:04.4 | Yes, yes. |
| 1:05.4 | There's so many things to talk about. |
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