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🗓️ 2 December 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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In this inspiring strength training transformation story, Niki Sims and Andrew Jackson sit down with Coach Mac McGregor and his longtime client, Gillespie Ferguson, to explore one of the most powerful journeys ever shared on Beast Over Burden. Once a self-described "unathletic" late starter plagued by chronic pain, self-doubt, and years of setbacks, Gillespie rebuilt not just his lifts but his entire understanding of what he was capable of. Through patient coaching, persistent work, and a deep friendship formed through the process, he transformed from a hesitant beginner into a confident, physically capable Coast Guard volunteer on the Isle of Skye.
In this candid conversation, Mac and Gillespie walk through the early struggles of pain and insecurity, the slow technical rebuild of every lift, the psychological work of staying committed through setbacks, and the surprising breakthrough that came years into training. They also share the dramatic impact of Lyme disease, the process of starting over from scratch, and why knowing how to train is the ultimate form of resilience. This episode is a reminder that strength is not reserved for the gifted—it's for anyone willing to start, struggle, and keep showing up.
Whether you're a beginner, someone returning from pain, a coach working with complex clients, or simply someone who needs to hear that transformation is possible at any age, this is an episode you don't want to miss.
How Gillespie went from chronic pain and self-doubt to the strongest he's ever been
Why rebuilding technique can feel slow—but changes everything
The role of psychology, confidence, and patience in long-term coaching
How Coach Mac used experimentation and customization to solve persistent pain
What to do when progress stalls (sometimes for months at a time)
The breakthrough moment when strength finally "clicked"
How improved nutrition and mindset accelerated transformation
The surprising impact of Lyme disease—and how to start over the right way
Why strength training skills stay with you for life
How training helped Gillespie earn a place in the Coast Guard
Why this strength training transformation story is so powerful for late starters
00:00 – Intro: Meet Mac & Gillespie
02:25 – Gillespie's beginnings: not athletic, not confident, but willing
07:40 – Early training attempts & meeting the first lifters who inspired him
11:10 – Working with Carl Schutt & the challenges that carried into lockdown
15:55 – The first in-person session with Mac & rebuilding from scratch
21:30 – Psychology of pain, fear, and believing you're "not built for strength"
26:05 – The slow technical fix: empty bar squats, 40-kg deadlifts, constant troubleshooting
30:20 – When progress finally took off: nutrition, confidence, and consistency
35:42 – Hitting big PRs: 187.5 kg deadlift, 140 kg squat, and more
39:55 – Disaster strikes: the onset of Lyme disease
43:20 – Starting over with a fresh LP after treatment
47:00 – Becoming Coast Guard–ready: strength meets service
50:25 – What Gillespie wishes he could tell his younger self
54:10 – Mac and Gillespie reflect on friendship, persistence, and purpose
58:00 – Final thoughts & how coaching changes lives
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Beast Overburden, powered by Barbell Logic. |
| 0:06.2 | We're Nikki and Andrew, your personal, professional coaches. |
| 0:09.0 | We help you take control of your fitness through hard but doable training and nutrition practices that fit your busy life. |
| 0:17.0 | Build a stronger, healthier version of yourself with lifelong habits. |
| 0:24.8 | And we're live. Welcome everybody to Beast Over Burden, powered by Barbell Logic. It's me, |
| 0:30.7 | Nikki Sims, and Andrew Jackson. Hello. Hello. We have two guys here who you're just going to really love listening to. |
| 0:39.9 | It makes me think of some TV show or radio show program I used to listen to |
| 0:44.7 | and when people would win something. |
| 0:46.8 | They would have someone with a really cool voice record, the voicemail message, |
| 0:50.9 | and I think I would have you guys do that for me. |
| 0:52.5 | Anyway, we have coach, |
| 0:54.5 | Mac McGregor, |
| 0:55.2 | who you've probably heard before on the podcast. |
| 0:57.5 | Welcome back, Mac. |
| 0:58.8 | Hey, good evening. |
| 0:59.5 | Thank you. |
| 1:00.6 | Thanks for being here. |
| 1:01.7 | And your coach, |
| 1:02.8 | you are the coach of your client. |
| 1:06.5 | I'm going to try to say your name, |
| 1:09.0 | Gillespie. |
| 1:10.1 | Very good. Gee. He, name, Gillespie. Very good. |
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