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The New Yorker Radio Hour

From “On the Media” ’s “Divided Dial”: “Fishing in the Night”

The New Yorker Radio Hour

WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

News, David, Books, Arts, Storytelling, Wnyc, New, Remnick, News Commentary, Yorker, Politics

4.25.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The second season of the Peabody-winning series “The Divided Dial” brings listeners into a little-known but globally influential part of the radio spectrum: shortwave.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Adam Howard, a senior producer for the New Yorker Radio Hour, and we wanted to share something special with you on the podcast this week.

0:11.5

This comes from our friends at On the Media, and it's an episode from the second season of their series The Dile.

0:17.9

Season one was all about the rightward shift of talk radio, and it won a Peabody Award. In season

0:23.3

two, reporter and host Katie Thornton travels to a lesser-known end of the radio spectrum.

0:29.4

Here's Katie Thornton, reporting for On the Media.

0:33.5

Zia turns out of Cionics.

0:35.7

This is such a cool radio with a little...

0:38.4

Last summer, I met up with a journalist and radio fan named David Goren.

0:43.0

These were, like, beautiful radio for a few years.

0:45.4

I went to his house in Brooklyn, New York, so that we could listen to the radio together.

0:50.3

Not any old radio, not AM or FM, nothing you can pick up in your car.

0:55.2

But Shortwave radio, the little-known cousin of AM&FM, with fuzzy stations that can reach insanely far distances.

1:03.4

David's been listening to Shortwave since he was a kid in the 70s, when his uncle gave him a radio.

1:08.2

And I turned it on, and it's like the radio, like, leapt out of my hand with the North American

1:14.4

service of Radio Moscow.

1:16.7

Suddenly, the world was all within reach, available to him right there in this box.

1:22.7

In the seventh grade, I became the expert on the next five-year plan and the Soviet Union, the economic

1:29.3

plan.

1:30.9

Today, he's part of the Library of Congress's Radio Preservation Task Force.

1:35.8

And together, on a sweaty Thursday afternoon last July, we sat down to hear what we could

1:43.3

find on the shortwave dial today.

1:47.0

Just like when David was a kid, we heard lots of government-run stations, like Radio Marti.

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