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The Michael Steele Podcast

From Memes to Extremism: How the Internet Fueled Far-Right Movements (with Elle Reeve)

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2024

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele speaks with CNN correspondent and Emmy and Peabody award-winning journalist, Elle Reeve about her new book, "Black Pill: How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet Come to Life, Poison Society, and Capture American Politics." The pair discuss how internet subcultures have contributed to the rise of white nationalism and the role social media plays in shaping people's thoughts and ideologies. Plus, what it's like confronting white supremecists face-to-face and how young people get sucked into extremist movements.

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0:00.0

Oh, he's cute. Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling. He's hugging his pillow like a sloth on a branch.

0:10.0

He couldn't sleep before. Now listen to him. Sounds like an elephant with a chest infection.

0:15.0

Well, they call him a dreamer. And now they're right.

0:19.0

All aboard, Mr. I can never sleep when I'm traveling.

0:23.0

Find all the comfort you need in the quiet lounge.

0:26.0

Piando Ferries, there is another way.

0:29.0

Ah, she's brilliant.

0:31.0

Miss, I finally got plans out the group chat. We get it. Four votes for a festival, three for a city break.

0:37.0

It's hard to adhere to everyone's needs. There's Betty with her oversized tent.

0:41.0

Sarah and her six foot eight boyfriend.

0:43.2

All right.

0:44.0

Roger Jr. and his dog, Roger Senior.

0:46.8

And don't get us started on Mel.

0:49.4

But, like a marriage counselor, she's the one keeping things together.

0:52.8

All aboard Miss I finally got plans out the group chat.

0:55.6

Keep everyone's plans alive when you travel with us.

0:58.1

P, and Dau Ferris, there is another way.

1:00.0

They had a moment where they took this turn,

1:02.8

what I call the Black Pill, which is they decide that society is just

1:07.4

completely morally bankrupt, and it's going to collapse.

1:11.2

And you might as well hasten its collapse

1:13.6

because what comes after will be something better.

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