Lemonada.

This is Sarah Stewart Holland.

And this is Maggie Penson.

You're listening to Pantsuit Politics, where we take a different approach to the news.

Beth is continuing her busy travel season and is in Florida today.

So I'm joined by Maggie, our director of community engagement.

Maggie and I are both what some people may call former Crunchy Mom.

I'm firmly and former, I think, at this point.

I think I'm pretty former, too.

This is going to be like an oral history of Maggie and I's history as crunchy moms.

We've been wanting to do this episode for a while, but with over 300 cases of measles in the United States and an epic amount of anti-vaccine sentiment.

We thought now was the perfect opportunity for us to talk through all of this with you today.

So we're going to talk about that.

And outside of politics, Maggie is going to ask me for some advice.

And we're going to walk through that.

All right.

But also, since I'm here, if you are out there and you subscribed to our premium episodes on Patreon and have struggled to find your way to substack for any reason. I know that like just learning a

new platform is hard. People keep on asking us if we're going to be on blue sky Sarah and I keep on

being like, I'm not learning anything new. No. I'm full. So anyway, if that feels like you,

but you miss good morning and more to say and you need some like one-on-one help me and alisa are ready to hold your

little hands and like get you over there to substack i will like personally come to your house and log

into it on your computer for you i actually did that for my sister last weekend i saw her and i was

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