From MAGA Activist to National Healer with Rich Logis

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 684 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

In a world marked by political extremes, high-control groups, and the Influence Continuum, the story of Rich Logis stands out as both compelling and enlightening. Formerly a true believer pundit for the MAGA movement, Rich’s transformation offers a deep dive into the mechanics of belief, mind control, the allure of belonging, and the power of self-reflection and transformation. Rich Logis was a podcaster and deeply committed MAGA activist. His journey resonates with what I’ve observed repeatedly: deceptive recruitment, emotional manipulation, and information control that exploits the deep-seated human need to belong and make a difference. Yet, the moment of awakening and subsequent transformation makes his narrative genuinely captivating. Now, as he says, he’s working to bring good news to the afflicted and to help others leave MAGA and exit the closed system of demonizing all opponents. Learn more about Steven Hassan and Freedom of Mind Resource Center. Visit freedomofmind.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.
0:08.4	And I have a special show today with Rich Logis, a man that I met on Twitter, now X,
0:18.4	but I still hate calling it X, I have to admit.
0:22.5	And Rich, I heard your story first on spaces, which is an audio conference call on Natalie
0:32.7	Jacobi's spaces, in fact.
0:35.3	And I was fascinated at listening to your story and also how articulate you were
0:43.5	at describing and your self-awareness that I invited you to do this. So I want to just do a little
0:51.2	more intro and say that you were solely a diehard Republican,
0:59.1	ultra MAGA, voted for Trump twice, voted for Florida governor DeSantis in 2018,
1:07.7	and you just, you're a self-described pundit whose writings were read by millions.
1:13.8	You are grassroots mega activist, and you did pro bono work for the Trump campaigns in 2016
1:21.2	and 2020, as well as the 2018 to Santa's campaign.
1:28.0	And here in your note to me,
1:31.1	you said, he was wrong about all of it
1:34.0	and that you really want to launch a series of workshops
1:39.0	entitled Leaving MAGA,
1:41.5	how we the people can perfect our union and reconcile, which is my deepest hope.
1:50.6	And the reason that I agreed to write a controversial book called the Cult of Trump,
1:57.1	it wasn't to call people names, but as someone who was in a cult and got lied to and trusted
2:04.4	Sun Ming Moon and all of the nice people that I was meeting, went in this rabbit hole of
2:12.0	extremism where I came to believe democracy was satanic, and we needed to infiltrate the government
2:18.7	and put a theocracy in its place. And if necessary, amend the Constitution and make it a
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