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All right, we are in part two of this epic journey with Terry Mugen, his flown over from California.

Check out part one if you've not seen it. It's the early years

upbringing in an abusive, cur-home situation. Then get into the street gang level of stuff and

quickly get in professional and proficient at armed robberies.

So the crimes are escalating rapidly, and we left off with...

We were just about to talk about the surveillance by the serious crime squad, but you had a story about

Jerry?

Joey, yeah.

Yes, Joey.

So eventually, after that was acquitted,

Joey was my partner, and he'd asked me to, there was two other guys from the city of Liverpool

in that lived in the city centre. So Joey had asked me, we bring these other two guys,

and they've got a job for us to do, and they said, go get Terry.

And I went, okay, I'll take a look, but at the edge of them,

these two lads. And they were notorious, but no, they'd never been caught,

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