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Witness History

From Leningrad to St Petersburg

Witness History

BBC

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, History

4.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

As the communist system in the former Soviet Union was collapsing in 1991, the people of Leningrad voted to drop Vladimir Lenin's name abandoning the city's revolutionary heritage and returning to its historic name of St Petersburg. Dina Newman spoke to Ludmilla Narusova, wife of the first St Petersburg mayor, Anatoli Sobchak, who campaigned for the hugely symbolic change.

This programme is a rebroadcast - it was first aired in 2018.

Photo: Communist campaigners demonstrate against the name change in Leningrad in 1991. Credit: Sobchak Foundation.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Rory Stewart and I grew up wanting to be a hero and I'm still fascinated by the ideas of heroism.

0:08.9

In my new series, I'm taking in the long sweep of history from Achilles to Zelensky and asking, what is a hero?

0:16.1

Simply doing your job, being a decent human being.

0:20.0

A true hero is someone who just kind of shines by

0:23.1

their own light and that light is to be recognized by others. The long history of heroism

0:27.8

with me, Rory Stewart. Listen on BBC Sounds. You're listening to the BBC World Service and now it's time for witness history with me, Dean and Newman.

0:42.5

Today we go back to the Soviet Union in 1991.

0:46.7

The communist system was already collapsing when, in a hugely symbolic act, the city of Leningrad,

0:53.8

voted to abandon the name of the leader of the Russian Revolution

0:57.2

and to return to its historic name of St. Petersburg.

1:04.1

Hardly anyone, not even ourselves, believed we would succeed in changing the city's name

1:09.8

because the opposition was very strong.

1:12.8

Ludmila Narasova was a historian

1:14.6

and wife of the leading reformist politician in Leningrad, Anatoly Sabchak.

1:22.9

It was extremely important to show that the new democratic Russia

1:26.8

was turning away from the

1:28.6

totalitarianism which had been associated with Lenin's regime. It was a complete revision of history.

1:39.2

In 1991, after 70 years of communist power, Russia was in search of a new identity.

1:51.4

St. Petersburg was Russia's old capital, founded by Tsar Peter the Great, as Russia's window on Europe.

1:59.7

In 1991,

2:01.3

Ludmiller and her husband, Anatoly Sapchak,

2:03.9

felt they were following in Peter the Great's footsteps,

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