From Hours To Days - Reinventing Long-Duration Energy Storage
Interchange Recharged
Wood Mackenzie
4.8 • 535 Ratings
🗓️ 1 September 2023
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
A new linear generator could be the answer to the risks of extreme weather.
The prospect of an extended blackout during a heat wave is not only alarming, but a potential public health emergency. According to a recent report in the New York Times, 800,000 residents would require hospitalisation if a major heatwave coincided with an extended blackout. The study, conducted by the Journal of Environmental Science and Technology, made clear the need for reliable energy storage.
Advancements in technology are helping to mitigate the risk, with modern batteries improving their lifespans from two to four hours to a more robust eight to ten hours. Experts even predict reaching a milestone of 100-hour battery life in the near future. However, nature doesn’t keep time like we do, and extreme weather can cause outages that outlast even these improved capabilities. So how can we protect our cities and ensure sustained power during these disruptions? The answer lies in developing technologies that transition long-duration storage capacities from hours to days and beyond. The Mainspring Linear Generator, developed by Mainspring Energy, a Silicon Valley-based startup, could be one of the answers to the storage challenge.
We are joined by Mainspring CEO Dr. Shannon Miller, a Stanford alumna with a PhD in mechanical engineering.
The Mainspring Linear Generator has raised over $530 million in funding from cleantech investors and demonstrates the potential of innovative solutions in accelerating the shift towards a net-zero carbon grid. Shannon explains how it uses different types of fuel - including conventional types like natural gas - and clean fuels such as hydrogen and ammonia.
To explore the wider trends and challenges around long-duration storage, Dr Melissa Lott also joins us on the Interchange this week. Melissa is Director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University, and she talks about the risks of gaps in power access, energy cost spikes and reliability issues. One of the key changes seen in the storage market is the separation of storage and generation solutions. As fossil fuel-based generators wind down, finding reliable and sustainable alternatives to provide reliable power becomes increasingly important.
Incentives and regulatory frameworks are integral to fostering the energy transition. Currently, however, specific types of storage, like electrochemical or thermal storage, are often prescribed in state mandates instead of leaving room for innovative alternatives. Therefore, there's a growing need for technology-neutral policies that accommodate various kinds of storage, including clean fuels.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the interchange recharged. I'm David Bammiller. |
| 0:06.2 | A multi-day blackout during a heat wave. How bad would it be? According to a recent report in the |
| 0:12.6 | New York Times, vary. Half of Phoenix in the emergency room level bad. Several other major |
| 0:18.6 | cities in the U.S. faced the same risk. The study, conducted by the |
| 0:22.5 | Journal of Environmental Science and Technology, emphasized the need for reliable energy storage. |
| 0:28.6 | It's one of the biggest challenges in achieving a clean, decarbonized grid, maintaining consistent |
| 0:33.7 | long-duration storage. Technology is advancing rapidly. |
| 0:38.3 | Today's batteries are improving from 2 to 4 hours of life to 8 to 10. |
| 0:42.3 | We're heading towards the milestone of 100 hours, but the reality is the climate has a different sense of time. |
| 0:48.3 | Extreme weather will create outages and capacity shortages that last longer than we can cope with. |
| 0:53.3 | So how can we mitigate this risk? |
| 0:56.0 | Today we look at the technology that could take our long duration storage from hours to days |
| 1:01.0 | and strengthen our protection against wild weather. |
| 1:03.0 | Dr. Shannon Miller is CEO of Main Spring Energy. |
| 1:06.0 | She holds a PhD in mechanical engineering from Stanford, |
| 1:09.0 | and it was during her study in the thermodynamics lab |
| 1:12.3 | that she co-developed the Main Spring linear generator. |
| 1:14.6 | At Main Spring, we build an entirely new type of power generator that's really helping to drive |
| 1:20.4 | the transition to a net zero carbon grid. So we build something called a linear generator, |
| 1:24.9 | and you can think about it as an extremely flexible generator. |
| 1:28.6 | Main Spring has raised more than 530 million in funding from Clean Tech investors. |
| 1:33.2 | Something that jumps into my mind quite often is the gaps that are left behind if we don't have |
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