Hello and welcome to the Byron York Show, the new Chick-Chap podcast.

We like to get right into it, and what we're going to get into today is Donald Trump.

You probably know the former president started up some campaign events in the last few days.

Really the first thing he's done publicly, as far as campaigning is concerned, since

he announced for president on November the 15th.

And one of those events was in Columbia, South Carolina.

The other one was in New Hampshire, and he did something really unusual.

He held a small event, or at least a relatively small event, Trump is known, you know, for holding

massive rallies, 8,000, 10,000, 15,000, maybe even more attending.

But his appearance, I went to the one in Columbia, South Carolina, the one in New Hampshire

was also small.

His appearance in South Carolina, the main lobby of the state capital in Columbia, was tiny

by comparison to the big Trump rallies, had maybe 500 people in the room, maybe a little

bit less.

Now the audience was all, it was all by invitation, so this was small by design.

He wasn't trying to hold a huge event and nobody showed up, but small by design.

So in the audience, they were all well connected, they were all very political.

And among them, and among people in the larger South Carolina political world, there was speculation

about why Trump to chose to go small.

I mean, nobody, nobody, even those who used to support Trump but now don't, none of them

doubted that he could have drawn a really big crowd in South Carolina.

They remembered last March, spoke to huge crowds, some estimated it to be 20,000 on a cold

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