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Death, Sex & Money

From Fan to Friend: The Unlikely Friendship Between Pico Iyer and Leonard Cohen

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Pico Iyer, author of "The Half-Known Life," reflects on deliberately walking away from his dream job, his decades-long friendship with Leonard Cohen, and surrendering to the unknown.

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0:00.0

If you were to ask me what so inspires me about Leonard Cohen, I would say that he wrote

0:06.5

so lucidly about mystery. In other words, a six-year-old child could understand it, and

0:13.0

yet it's about everything that we can't begin to fathom.

0:16.4

This is Death, Sex, and Money. The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

0:28.2

I need to talk about more. I may not say it.

0:39.9

When I reached writer Pico Iyer at his home in Japan, it was late afternoon where I was,

0:45.0

and early morning, the next day, for Pico.

0:48.2

If you were going to turn on a Leonard Cohen song this morning to listen to, what song would

0:54.3

you pick? I've already answered that, Anna, because I did so with If It Be Your Will.

1:00.2

And that's almost the prayer that I begin every important conversation with. Takes me to

1:09.2

the deepest and quietest part of myself.

1:12.3

If It Be Your Will, let us be no more, and my voice be still, as it was before.

1:33.8

Almost every single word, a monocleable, and yet it gets to a place that we can't begin

1:38.5

to explain.

1:44.2

Leonard Cohen died in 2016, but he's with Pico most mornings. Pico was a long-time fan

1:51.4

of the singer-songwriter, and then the two became close friends in the last 20 years of

1:56.4

Cohen's life.

2:00.5

Pico Iyer has written more than a dozen books about travel, stillness, and spirituality.

2:07.1

His latest, the Half-None Life, is a chronicle of his visits to holy sites and sacred places.

2:14.2

And we started our conversation, talking about when he first met Leonard Cohen at one

2:18.8

sacred place, at a monastery outside of Los Angeles, where Cohen eventually stayed for

2:24.7

five years, after decades of living like a rock star.

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