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Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

From famine to statehood? - with Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal

Call Me Back - with Dan Senor

Ark Media, Ilan Benatar

Society, October 7, Hamas, War, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Israel, News Commentary, News, Politics, Elections, Palestine, Dan Senor, Government

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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0:00.0

You are listening to an art media podcast.

0:10.1

I think that what Hamas is trying to do to Israel right now, and I'm going to say something very difficult.

0:15.6

The ploy here is to say the Jewish genocide, the Holocaust, that gave them enough credence and legitimacy worldwide

0:23.7

and the support of the world for their independence.

0:27.2

And if we convince the world as to our own genocide and famine and starvation in Gaza and all the rest,

0:33.8

that will grant us the legitimacy needed.

0:36.9

And out of our genocide, as they see it, our country will be born. And that was always, by the way, the big project. This was the project of Yahyazinau. This is a dramatic watershed line in the war. Because the way Trump, Rubio, Witkoff, Netanyahu and Dermer are describing

0:56.3

what is going to happen is like a train coming. And on the other hand, on the other side,

1:02.4

there is a train coming with the international community on board. To be honest, I don't know

1:06.9

where it goes, but I think they are going to be dramatic days.

1:23.2

It's 6 a.m. on Sunday, July 27th here in New York City. Yes, 6 a.m. It's early. It's 1 p.m. on Sunday, July 27th, in Israel,

1:34.4

as Israelis begin a new week in which they have learned that two IDF soldiers were killed in an armored vehicle blast in southern Gaza and Khan Yunus. Those two soldiers were

1:46.5

Captain Amir Saad, who was 22 years old from the Druze village of Yanujat, and Sergeant

1:53.7

Inun Nouriel Vana, who was 20 years old from Kiryat Tyvon. Both were serving in the Golani Brigade's reconnaissance battalion.

2:03.2

On Thursday, the Israeli and American negotiating teams left Doha, signaling that hostage

2:09.6

ceasefire talks with Hamas were not progressing, at least for now. President Trump told reporters

2:15.9

as he was leaving the White House, that Hamas did not want to

2:19.2

make a deal with the U.S. Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff saying, quote, we will now consider alternative

2:25.4

options to bring the hostages home. Close quote. Alternative options. In light of this, Hamas,

2:32.8

according to public reports, is preparing to fend off possible hostage rescue operations.

2:40.0

Meanwhile, we have been hearing a lot over the past week about the risk of starvation among Gazans.

2:46.4

Research by Einae Spitzer of Hebrew University on the price of flour in the Gaza Strip has convinced

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