From Extraction to Regeneration: Healing Ourselves, Healing Society (Episode #16)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Health & Fitness, Education, Buddhism, Mental Health, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement

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🗓️ 2 December 2021

⏱️ 107 minutes

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Welcome to episode 16 of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. In this episode, the presenters, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and lay Buddhist practitioner and journalist Jo Confino, are joined by special guest, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Linh (Brother Spirit). Together, they discuss eco-anxiety, the challenges of and solutions for shifting to a new paradigm which can heal us and our planet, and whether it’s possible to change our minds, hearts, and future. Plus: how can you be at peace in what feels like a battlefield? The conversation touches upon “the decisive decade”; individualism and competition; interdependence; handling fear; transformation; change in “the age of collective procrastination”; and opportunities in difficult times. Is it possible to ‘sit’ with collapse? Brother Phap Linh (Brother Spirit) shares his journey of transformation, from studying sciences at Cambridge, to numerous retreats, and eventual monastic life. He further talks about creating transformation at both personal and collective levels; the cult of individualism; societal numbness; handling the energy of negativity; the basis of understanding reality, and what nourishes our views and beliefs; the economic conceit ‘the tragedy of the commons’; creating shared visions and aspirations; and telling new stories. And how do you change your view when you’re caught in the old paradigm? Brother Phap Huu shares insights on how to not lose ourselves in a fast-paced environment, and looks at: fundamental questions; procrastination; individual aspirations; becoming free from attachment; striving and the importance of stopping; learning in the community; the Six Harmonies; and the joy of sharing. There’s also important advice for those ‘burning out’ in the environmental movement.Jo recollects Thich Nhat Hanh’s speech to the members of the UK Parliament and his thoughts on conflictual political systems. He further muses on the lasting joy of community life. The episode ends with a short meditation on gratitude and Mother Earth, guided by Brother Phap Linh. Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/ And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/ With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resources Brother Phap Linh (Brother Spirit)https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/brother-phap-linh/ Richard Dawkinshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins The tragedy of the commonshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons Elinor Ostromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elinor_Ostrom Music for Difficult Timeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarhXTDs8Z4‘Introduction to Namo Avalokiteshvara’https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjBUZrrqAVQ Kundunhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KundunGandhihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhi_(film) Comfortably Numbhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfortably_NumbSiddharthahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddhartha_(novel) The Matrixhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Matrix Dharma Talks: ‘The Four Noble Truths: Vulture Peak Gathering’https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/the-four-noble-truths-vulture-peak-gathering-2016-06-04-lower-hamlet-sr-dinh-nghiem/ Multi-level selection theoryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperation_%28evolution%29#Multi-level_selection The Five Mindfulness Trainingshttps://plumvillage.org/mindfulness-practice/the-5-mindfulness-trainings/ The Fourteen Mindfulness Trainingshttps://plumvillage.org/mindfulness-practice/the-14-mindfulness-trainings/ Quotes “When everything is motivated by love, you don’t burn out.” “My da

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the
0:05.2	podcast The Way Out is In. I am Joe Konfino working at the intersection of personal transformation and systems change
0:28.0	and I am Brother Fabu, a Zen Buddhist monk in the tradition of Zen master Techn in the Plum Village community.
0:35.0	In this episode, we're going to be looking at the whole issue of eco-anxiety,
0:41.0	the risk of ecological collapse and social dislocation.
0:47.0	And yet there is a path to a new way of living
0:51.0	that's based on community, on support, on love. And in this episode we will
0:57.4	explore whether it's possible changing our minds, changing our hearts, changing our future. The way out is in the same.
1:18.0	The way out is in. My. Hello and I am Joe Confino and I am Brother Fabhoo and we are today sitting in the sitting still hut of Tigna town
1:41.0	so where he used to live in Upper Hamlet in the southwest of France.
1:46.1	And you may occasionally hear the sound of nuts falling from the tree above onto the roof,
1:50.7	which sort of provides us a moment to sit back and provides us a moment to sit back and reflect on the fact that nature is all around us.
1:59.0	So Brother Fapu, today we are going to be talking about the need for what people are referring
2:06.0	to as the new paradigm which is the fact that the current system we live in the
2:10.9	current way we live the current way we think is leading to
2:15.1	extraordinary ecological damage, it's leading to disastrous climate change, it's leading to
2:22.4	social dislocation.
2:24.0	Basically, we are heading very much in the wrong direction
2:28.0	and everyone realizes if with business as usual if we carry on in the same way
2:32.0	that our very foundations of our
2:34.5	civilization are at risk. So today we're going to talk about how do we make this
2:40.3	shift from this old system to a new system. How do we cross this chasm to a new world?
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