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Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times

From East Berlin to West Ireland (452)

Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times

Ian Sanders

Society & Culture, Documentary, History

4.8863 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Juli begins by recounting her early years in East Berlin, a time marked by the tragic loss of her father. Drafted into the army just days before her birth, her father continually deserted to see his family, ultimately leading to his untimely death. This early loss left Juli and her mother to navigate a harsh landscape in East Germany alone. Life in East Berlin was a world of contrasts. Juli describes the indoctrination she experienced in school, where lessons were steeped in socialist propaganda. The Berlin Wall, a symbol of division and oppression, loomed large in her family’s life, cutting them off from relatives in the West. Despite the regime’s efforts to control information, Juli’s family found ways to glimpse the outside world through Western television channels, fuelling her desire for freedom. As Juli grew older, she became increasingly aware of the regime’s lies and the oppressive nature of the state. The revolutionary movements of the late 1980s, sparked by events like the Tiananmen Square massacre, galvanised her. Juli joined the Monday demonstrations in Leipzig, risking her safety to demand change. Juli’s story doesn’t end with the fall of the Wall. She moved to Ireland, where she built a new life and family. She speaks candidly about the challenges of adapting to a new way of life and the lingering impact of her upbringing. Due to some last-minute production problems, this episode is a repeat of a brilliant episode from 18 months ago. It’s well worth hearing again! Episode extras here https://coldwarconversations.com/episode452 Go to ⁠⁠⁠https://surfshark.com/coldwardeal⁠⁠⁠ or use code COLDWARDEAL at checkout to get 4 extra months of Surfshark VPN!  Help me preserve Cold War history via a simple monthly donation, You’ll become part of our community, get ad-free episodes, and receive a sought-after CWC coaster as a thank-you, and you’ll bask in the warm glow of knowing you are helping to preserve Cold War history. Just go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://coldwarconversations.com/donate/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If a monthly contribution is not your cup of tea, we also welcome one-off tips via the same link. Find the ideal gift for the Cold War enthusiast in your life! Just go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://coldwarconversations.com/store/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ CONTINUE  THE COLD WAR CONVERSATION o BlueSky ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bsky.app/profile/coldwarpod.bsky.social⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Threads ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@coldwarconversations⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Twitter/X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/ColdWarPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Facebook ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/coldwarpod/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/coldwarconversations/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ o Youtube ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://youtube.com/@ColdWarConversations⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Cold War Conversations, the home of real stories of the Cold War.

0:05.8

Due to some last-minute problems, this episode is a repeat of a brilliant episode from Julie,

0:11.2

who was born in East Germany and now lives in Ireland. It's well worth hearing again.

0:16.5

And that was the first time I experienced a kind of violence from the state because suddenly the water cannons and the gas throwers and gas bombs were out.

0:27.9

And it was exciting.

0:29.4

It was accelerating.

0:30.6

But it was also like I was worried that I get, you know, that I don't get home.

0:35.0

And I wasn't sure how do you get to see your mom again?

0:42.2

This is Cold War Conversations. If you're new here, you've come to the right place to listen to

0:48.6

firsthand Cold War history accounts. Do make sure you follow us in your podcast app so that you don't miss

0:55.8

out on future episodes. Julie begins by recounting her early years in East Berlin, a time

1:03.0

marked by the tragic loss of her father. Drafted into the army just days before her birth,

1:08.6

her father continually deserted to see his family, ultimately

1:12.4

leading to his untimely death. Life in East Berlin was a world full of contrast. Julie

1:18.5

describes the indoctrination she experienced in school where lessons were steeped in socialist

1:23.8

propaganda. The Berlin Wall, a symbol of division and oppression, loomed large

1:29.5

in the family's life, cutting them from relatives in the West. Despite the regime's

1:34.6

efforts to control information, Julie's family found ways to glimpse the outside world

1:39.4

through Western TV channels, fueling her desire for freedom.

1:44.5

The revolutionary movements of the late 1980s sparked by events like the Tiananmen Square

1:49.3

massacre galvanized her.

1:51.3

Julie joined the Monday demonstrations, risking her safety to demand change.

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