From East Berlin to West Ireland (452)
Cold War Conversations - "vivid & compelling" The NY Times
Ian Sanders
4.8 • 863 Ratings
🗓️ 17 April 2026
⏱️ 92 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Cold War Conversations, the home of real stories of the Cold War. |
| 0:05.8 | Due to some last-minute problems, this episode is a repeat of a brilliant episode from Julie, |
| 0:11.2 | who was born in East Germany and now lives in Ireland. It's well worth hearing again. |
| 0:16.5 | And that was the first time I experienced a kind of violence from the state because suddenly the water cannons and the gas throwers and gas bombs were out. |
| 0:27.9 | And it was exciting. |
| 0:29.4 | It was accelerating. |
| 0:30.6 | But it was also like I was worried that I get, you know, that I don't get home. |
| 0:35.0 | And I wasn't sure how do you get to see your mom again? |
| 0:42.2 | This is Cold War Conversations. If you're new here, you've come to the right place to listen to |
| 0:48.6 | firsthand Cold War history accounts. Do make sure you follow us in your podcast app so that you don't miss |
| 0:55.8 | out on future episodes. Julie begins by recounting her early years in East Berlin, a time |
| 1:03.0 | marked by the tragic loss of her father. Drafted into the army just days before her birth, |
| 1:08.6 | her father continually deserted to see his family, ultimately |
| 1:12.4 | leading to his untimely death. Life in East Berlin was a world full of contrast. Julie |
| 1:18.5 | describes the indoctrination she experienced in school where lessons were steeped in socialist |
| 1:23.8 | propaganda. The Berlin Wall, a symbol of division and oppression, loomed large |
| 1:29.5 | in the family's life, cutting them from relatives in the West. Despite the regime's |
| 1:34.6 | efforts to control information, Julie's family found ways to glimpse the outside world |
| 1:39.4 | through Western TV channels, fueling her desire for freedom. |
| 1:44.5 | The revolutionary movements of the late 1980s sparked by events like the Tiananmen Square |
| 1:49.3 | massacre galvanized her. |
| 1:51.3 | Julie joined the Monday demonstrations, risking her safety to demand change. |
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