From Control to Collaboration: The 'Who' Shift
Win Make Give with Ben Kinney
Ben Kinney Training
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 17 October 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Chad Hyams and Bob Stewart discuss the pivotal shift from control to collaboration in this episode of the Win Make Give podcast. They explore how moving from "how" to "who" questions can facilitate growth and efficiency in business. Chad and Bob highlight the impact of delegating tasks and surrounding oneself with skilled individuals. The hosts also emphasize the importance of creating a "board of who" for leveraging expertise and fostering a collaborative environment that leads to greater success. Tune in to discover strategies for letting go and achieving exponential growth.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Win Make Give podcast. |
| 0:08.8 | Chad Heim's here. Bob Stewart over there. |
| 0:10.9 | Bob, how are you doing today? |
| 0:12.3 | Well, Chad, I failed. |
| 0:14.3 | Can I just tell you how I failed? |
| 0:15.6 | Well, look, we are in our series here. |
| 0:18.6 | Yep. |
| 0:18.8 | Right? |
| 0:19.2 | We are, and we're in part three or the third kind of |
| 0:23.9 | element here which is the who shift sure and i i meant to find some leverage to replace me on this |
| 0:34.1 | podcast and but i failed and so i'm still here is that is that what we're talking about wait your leverage on this podcast, but I failed, and so I'm still here. Is that what we're talking about? |
| 0:38.8 | Wait. Your leverage on this podcast is you just don't show up and leave it to me. |
| 0:44.1 | So you've got that one mastered if our audience. |
| 0:47.6 | That's all the interviews. When we do an episode together, if I don't show up, then you're all |
| 0:51.9 | by yourself. And I get some monologue. I do feel that. That's right. The audience finally gets an episode where I get to monologue. Folks, but you don't want that yet. If you do want me monologue, check out the Achieve Your Apex podcast. Seven to 10 minute long episodes where I take you through my book, Achieve Your Apex, and more stuff. I've actually finished the book. We're on to new and exciting things. Chad, I think I could handle you all by yourself for seven to ten minutes. If we tried to pump out a winmate give 30 minutes with chat all by himself, I don't know if I could make it. You're not going to listen to that one. And the subject would be why Bob Stewart sucks, right? And that would be what I would be talking about. I could go on for a half hour, easy on that topic. And we say it from love. We love you. I'd have to call you really aggressively angry. You know, threaten you to a pickleball match or something. Bring it on. I'm wearing a pickleball shirt right now. All right. Like, I already knew that about you. Okay. I don't know I'm wearing a pickleball shirt right now. All right. |
| 1:48.0 | Like, I already knew that about you. Okay. I know I'm wearing a pickleball shirt. |
| 1:52.1 | I didn't know you were wearing it today, but I knew when you moved to Florida that a pickleball t-shirt was in your near future. Yeah, there are a few in the closet. Just like Bob has the same |
| 1:58.1 | hoodie again and again and again. Chad now has pickleball shirts. Mine just come in different colors. It's probably been a good five years since you've seen. When was the last time we sat in a room together? I didn't necessarily every time I went to Bellanyhandhand. But it's probably been five years since you've seen me in anything other than a black hoodie. Absolutely. Maybe when you picked me up at the airport once, the last time I was up there when we did the wealth series, folks check it out. We makegiv.com slash wealth. I just got my daughter to finally start listening to it. She's finally got to that point in her life where I'm like, good, listen, right? It'll make the difference. I wish I was 24 years old and somebody played the wealth series for me. |
| 2:34.9 | Now, we are taking you through now what we call the mindset shifts that scale series. |
| 2:41.0 | That's what we're kind of going through here. |
| 2:42.6 | Bob, the first one, we talked about going from scarcity to abundance, specifically with wealth |
| 2:48.8 | as kind of the conversation, although we did talk about it in other |
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