From Child Refugee To Top Lawyer
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
4.1 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 30 November 2023
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
The headlines are dominated by statistics about who is coming to the UK and why; but what is it like to come to Britain as a child refugee, without your parents or the ability to speak English, and make a success of life in the UK?
Somali born Hashi Mohamed arrived in North London aged 9. He tells Matt about his journey to becoming a top barrister and author, why people from poor backgrounds face the same obstacles he did, and why he is put off from a career in politics.
Plus: Columnists Jenni Russell and Matthew Parris discuss the legacy of Henry Kissinger, whether mental health sickness leave has led to a spike of skivers, and whether we should mourn cuts to Newsnight.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Chordy bringing you politics without the boring bits. |
| 0:09.0 | You can listen live to the show, Monday to Friday, 10 till 1 on times Radio for free. Just retune your D. A B radio, |
| 0:16.1 | ask your smart speaker or download the Times Radio app. Coming up on today's episode, |
| 0:20.7 | a really fascinated conversation with someone I met on the Times and |
| 0:23.6 | Sunday Times Cheltenham Literature Festival at sea with all this talk of what's going |
| 0:27.3 | on with immigration both legal and illegal I speak to the barrister hashim Mohammed who came to the UK as a refugee age nine |
| 0:36.2 | who was born of Somali came to the UK without his parents without being able to speak English |
| 0:40.8 | he talks about how he got on how he adjusted how he |
| 0:45.4 | learned English schooling the role of education in social mobility and whether or not |
| 0:50.1 | he'd ever enter politics so a genuinely fascinating conversation coming up with |
| 0:54.4 | him in just a moment. But first let's take a look at what's going on in the world |
| 0:59.2 | with these two. |
| 1:01.2 | The columnist. The Columnists on Times Radio. |
| 1:08.0 | Yes, and this morning I'm joined by as we often are one of Thursday Matthew |
| 1:13.4 | Hello Matthew and no man being runner this week so we've got Jenny Russell |
| 1:18.1 | how to Jenny Jenny good morning let's let's start with the news that emerged overnight. |
| 1:24.9 | The death of Henry Kissinger, the former US century of state at the age of a hundred. |
| 1:30.0 | I mean an extraordinary life story, just to reflect on that for a moment. |
| 1:33.4 | He was a refugee from the Nazis before moving to America, then fought for America in the Second |
| 1:40.9 | World War. |
| 1:41.9 | As a diplomat, he was a central figure in bringing China and America together, |
| 1:46.0 | but he also had a central role in negotiating the Vietnam Peace Accord for which he was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 1973. |
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