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slash UK slash AI for people. Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling

history magazine.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne.

From the invention of the wheel to the rise of the car,

author and journalist Tom Standage's book, A Brief History of Motion,

charts the long history of personal transport,

to help us determine how our modern world came to be.

BBC History Revealed's production editor, John Borkham, spoke to Tom to find out more.

So I'm delighted to be speaking here with Tom Standage, who, as well as being deputy editor of The Economist,

is also the author of a new book, A Brief History of Motion, From the

Wheel to the Car, to What Comes Next. Thank you for coming on the podcast, Tom. It's great to be here,

thank you. And I thought I would just begin, actually, appropriately enough by going to the beginning

of your book, to the introduction, which actually concerns the topic of horse manure.

Oh, yeah.

That's a whole load of horse manure.

Could you just explain to listeners the general gist of that story and why it's such an

important starting point?

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