Hey, this is Ari. Welcome back to the show with me on the show for the second time is my good friend, Dr. Amy Epigion, who is a brilliant expert in the field of understanding trauma, how it works in our biology, and how to heal it.

She is a double board certified physician in preventive and addiction medicine with

master's degrees in biochemistry and public health.

She's also the author of the groundbreaking new book, The Biology of Trauma, which is launching

in just a few days and is really the subject of what we're

talking about in this episode. And just a bit about her work, she is pioneering a really novel

and revolutionary approach to how we understand and how we deal with trauma, how it gets

stored in the body,

and given this understanding of how it works, not just at the level of psychology, at the

level of the mind, but how it interacts with our physiology, she's really focused on how we

rewire our physiology to heal that trauma and create lasting change.

What I find most compelling about her work is how she's connected the dots between trauma, cellular energy, mitochondrial health, and chronic health and chronic illness more broadly.

She's showing us that trauma isn't just a psychological phenomenon, but that it's fundamentally

biological.

And really this changes, this frame changes everything about how we approach the healing

of trauma.

So this conversation gets deep into some really fascinating territory.

I think take some unexpected twists and turns that probably are not typical of most conversations

on this topic. And I try to introduce maybe some different angles. And I think her answers to my

questions were brilliant. And I think

you're going to get a lot of value from it. So with no further ado, enjoy this conversation with

Dr. Amy Epigion. And if you are really interested in this topic and if you suspect you might

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