Welcome to betrayal trauma recovery. This is Anne. I have Dr. Debbie Silber on today's episode.

She is a friend and has been on the podcast before before we get to her. It is summer.

We have found that so many abuse episodes happen during the summer,

likely in car rides where you can't get away or on vacations or you have to put on a really

happy face for your kids. Perhaps you're at a theme park or maybe at a beach house or maybe at a

family reunion or maybe your sister's house, something like that and you're sort of forced to

deal with the abuse in a way that you just like dismiss it or whatever because you have to put

on this happy face for the situation that you're in. We are here for you. betrayal trauma recovery

group runs all summer long. We never take a break. We're always here. You can always get in right

away usually within a few hours of an abuse episode. Sneak off away from the family reunion and

get some cell service in your car and attend one of our groups. To see the group session schedule,

go to btr.org and we'd love to see you in a session today. Here's a five star review we

received on Apple podcasts. Thank you for truth. Episode can't change your abuser is my entire

life. I had no idea what I was up against as a child and I grew up and married into subversive

abuse. I'm learning day by day trying to heal trying to gain strength. Thank you for enlightening

me further and for understanding the horrific tangle that poor choices can bring. Thank you so

much for that review. A lot of us made really good choices. We were looking for a specific set of

characteristics. We really were very careful and it still did not work out. We still married an

abuser because he groomed us. It's really interesting that it's sort of a crapshoot. I know some

women who have made some poor choices but they married wonderful men. We can never blame the

abuse that we experience on ourselves. A person can choose to be abusive regardless of the choices

we make. We do know though that we can set boundaries around abuse to get to safety and also

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