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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

From Bad to Norse – How the Vikings would have dealt with a tyrant like Trump

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Some say Donald Trump’s ancestry ties him to Norse kings and even Rurik, founder of Russia’s first dynasty. In recent weeks, Russian state media have pushed the idea that Trump’s “Viking blood” explains his ruthless streak. But would the real Vikings have raised a flagon in his honour, or run him out of the fjord? Today on The Bunker, Chris Jones is joined by medieval historian Dr. Keith Ruiter, who specialises in the Viking age, to find out how the vikings would have dealt with a leader like Trump. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social  Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more Written and presented by Chris Jones. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Chris Jones.

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Sometime during his first term, it was claimed by some that Donald Trump could have descended from Viking rulers.

1:58.8

His mother's maiden name is MacLeod, a clan created by loud son of Olaf the

2:03.5

Black, who was a king of the Isle of Man in the early medieval period and thought to be of Norse lineage.

2:09.5

And then there's Rourik, a mighty Viking ruler, thought to have created the first major Russian dynasty

2:15.4

in around 860 CE.

2:18.1

He's also believed by some, including Russian state media, to have a lineage to Donald Trump.

2:24.0

It's because of those supposed ties that some have linked Trump's ruthless behavior to his

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