Dr Craig let's check out some clips from what I think is a very moving and interesting interview

with a young man who was raised as a believer, became an ardent atheist, and then rediscovered

his faith in Christ.

What he says, Bill, I think, really brings home some of the things you've talked about in your work,

like the role of reason in the Christian faith, how the Holy Spirit can use arguments and evidence and so on.

And this is from the Exploring Reality Podcast hosted by Than Christopoulos who interviews CJ.

I wanted to give him a shout out.

And here's the first clip.

And that's where I was confirmed in the Lutheran faith.

Confirmation was 6th, 7th, and 8th grade. And I would say to sort of give you a picture of my faith at that time I didn't really

understand what Christianity was for probably that entire time.

I could have told you that it was about Jesus. I could have told you that the Bible had

something to do with it and I could have told you that I believed in God and heaven and angels. Like I could have told you the general stuff. But if you would have asked me, you know, what does it mean to be a Lutheran as opposed to a Baptist or a

Catholic or an Anglican or anything like that? I would have said what are those

things and who are you because I wouldn't have been having those conversations.

Bill in all fairness to our Lutheran friends, they would say that that was what the

confirmation classes were for that he took to explain the Christian faith.

Nevertheless, he came away not knowing much of anything.

Yeah, I myself also went through confirmation classes at about the same age in a mainline church as a non-Christian and I have to say

that they were just meaningless to me I was clueless as to what this stuff was about.

So I can testify personally that it's possible

for a Christian to go through all these classes

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