From 2016: Undercover With White Supremacists

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🗓️ 28 March 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

This next episode of our Best of ITT series takes us back to 2016, and our conversation with Mike German, fellow with the Brennan Center for Justice’s Liberty & National Security Program. Maria and Julio talk to Mike about what he learned about the white supremacist movement during his time as an undercover FBI agent, and how the media is missing the real story.

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0:00.0	I'm so glad that you're here. And you know, it's me, Mariano Jose. Can you believe that
0:23.6	we've reached the end of our best of ITT series? What, what, what, what? How's that possible?
0:29.7	I don't know. I just love what we've done here over these seven powerful, amazing years. And
0:35.5	we've done it in just eight episodes. Wow. We really hope that you enjoyed some of these fabulous
0:42.3	classics. Now, we're ending with a bang for today's final best of drop. We're going back to 2016.
0:49.4	The year it all started. Yes, the year ITT was conceived. And we said, let's do this before
0:56.4	you even knew that you needed ITT. And you know, it all started with this conversation with Mike
1:02.2	German. He is a Brennan Center Fellow and a former FBI agent. And during his time at the FBI,
1:09.4	as an undercover agent, Mike actually worked hard to be allowed to infiltrate the white supremacist
1:17.0	movement. And he came to tell us about all of the bizarre details about his experience. So,
1:25.0	unfortunately, we know that white supremacist violence has continued to increase since that conversation.
1:32.0	We've had to live through the horrific shootings in El Paso and in Buffalo, New York. Both
1:37.5	touched very close to home here at Fuduro Media. We've had to live through the January 6th
1:43.4	attempted coup on the US Capitol just over two years ago, which was undoubtedly about making
1:50.3	America great again for white folks. Some of the coup attempters that day had Confederate flags
1:56.6	and white nationalist paraphernalia, remember, including one person who was wearing an Auschwitz
2:02.0	concentration camp shirt. And with the recent police killing of Tyree Nichols by five black police
2:10.3	officers, we can also see that white supremacy is not limited to white people. The concept we've
2:17.1	talked about a lot on ITT since the very beginning, but rather white supremacy is a system of hatred
2:23.2	perpetrated by racist laws and institutions, and you do not have to be white to be a white supremacist.
2:31.3	So, here's an OG episode that gets deep into this issue from December 5th, 2016. Here it goes.
2:47.4	White supremacy has always been part of our governing culture. None of this is new.
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