Motherhood is hard. One second, we think we're doing a good enough job and the next we feel

like the worst mom on the planet, which is why we need the refreshing truth of the gospel

to be repeated over and over, giving us hope in the everyday moments. So, mama, whether

you're sipping cold coffee or doing a sink full of dishes, we hope you'll find true,

encouragement and laughter here. This is the Risen Motherhood Podcast. Thanks for joining us.

Welcome back to Risen Motherhood. I'm Emily Jensen here with my sister-in-law, Laura Whiffler.

Hello, hello. And before we get started talking about mom friendships today, just wanted to

let you guys know that we have an interview next week with Courtney Reisick. And she is actually

going to be speaking to a topic that we've wanted to dive into more on Risen Motherhood, just

discussing kind of what her mom life looks like after a journey through infertility and miscarriage

and loss and just the way that some of those things are still impacting her today. So, we hope

that you guys will tune in next week for that. Yeah, I think it's going to be great. And onto our show

this week about mom friendships, gosh, mom friends, it's sort of like an awesome topic and like a

terrifying topic. I know like, why are friends so hard in this stage of life? At least I feel like

they are. No, they totally are. I feel like my friendships have changed so much since when I was in

college or just working and single or married, but no kids. I feel like it's the children. Exactly,

because at least for me, I think in general, I don't know, I just think friendship is hard

anyways. And whenever I get extra time anymore, I find that the more kids I've had, like the more

introverted and like I want to hide in a quiet room, and like not talk to anyone. So it's really hard

for me to use that like, you know, quote unquote, extra time to be like, okay, now let's go out and

be with friends. And I know everybody's personality is different. But I sometimes have to force myself

to be like, no, this is going to be energizing for me. That's the thing is that we have to like

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