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at Zibby Owens. Okay, love finally, untangling the knot between mothers, daughters, and food

by Janine Roth is one of my new recent favorites. She is such a powerhouse. And I thought it would

be interesting to pair her episode with Jessica George, who wrote Love by the Book, which is a

novel about the power of female friendships. They both have love in the title. So yes, there's that.

But they both have the love that they got from those in their lives that helped.

Janine has a woman named Cleo who helps her through this recent understanding of her traumatic relationship with her mom,

and that led to her, in oversimplification, but her relationship to food.

Jessica George writes about how in fiction

friends got each other through a terrible time. And I thought that they would be an interesting

counterbalance. So I've taken parts of both of these to help inform our view of how essential

female friendships are and to any of my girlfriends out there who are listening. And basically, you're all my girlfriends at this point. I mean, who are we kidding? Thank you. Thank you for being a friend. Janine Roth is the author of 10 books, including New York Times bestsellers, Women, Food, and God, when food is love and lost and found. And then Jessica George is the New York Times best-selling author of Mame. I had her

on the podcast for that. And she was born and raised in London to Ghanaian parents and studied English

literature at the University of Sheffield. I hope these two meet in real life at some point and talk

about how women help women so very, very much. Welcome, Ginny. And thank you so much for coming

on Totally Booked

to Talk About Love, Finally, Untangling the Knot between mothers, daughters, and food. Congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you. I'm really glad to be here. I just loved this book. I related to a lot

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