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🗓️ 31 July 2025
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This week, Matt and Vanessa explore the theme of Friendship in Chapter 17 of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows! They discuss Bathilda’s master plan, Harry’s resentment, and the notes at Godric’s Hollow! Throughout the episode we consider the question: what are all the different kinds of friendship?
Thank you to Lizzie for this week’s voicemail! Next week we're reading Chapter 18, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore through the theme of Redemption.
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0:00.0 | Chapter 17, Batilda's Secret. |
0:03.4 | Harry, stop. |
0:04.9 | What's wrong? |
0:06.0 | They had only just reached the grave of the unknown abbot. |
0:10.1 | There's someone there, someone watching us. |
0:12.4 | I can tell. |
0:13.5 | There, over by the bushes. |
0:15.7 | They stood quite still, holding on to each other. |
0:19.6 | I'm Vanessa Zoltan. And I'm Matt Potts. And this is Harry Potter |
0:24.0 | and the Sacred Text. Vanessa, you can't get rid of me. I'm back. I love it. I love it. Matt, |
0:31.6 | our every flavored bean this week, I wanted us to talk about times that we have tried going to visit an elderly person, |
0:41.2 | but it turned out that they were possessed by a snake. But it turns out that we have the same |
0:46.1 | story. We both visited the same old person. That's right. At the same time. Yeah. And we're like, |
0:52.1 | oh, that would be boring. So instead we're just going to |
0:55.2 | spend some time recommending a bit of culture that we have watched recently and enjoyed. |
1:01.4 | I can't wait to hear what you recommend, Vanessa. Oh, my God. It's going to really surprise you. |
1:06.3 | Matt, you are telling a story on the theme of friendship. What story do you have for us today? I have a story that's going to mix it up a little bit. Ooh. You're going to tell a story about enemies? No. Usually I tell a story that leads into an etymology. Uh-huh. And I don't have an etymology this time. Oh. It's more of an intellectual history. So this is kind of more like intellectual, conceptual |
1:28.1 | history corner with Matt. Okay. I think we should name it something better, but go ahead. |
1:34.4 | Okay. I mean, you know, you're the marketing genius in this partnership. |
1:38.2 | Yes. Clearly. |
1:39.6 | That's right. Because I wanted to talk about friendship as a form of love. But what I couldn't stop thinking about was how in Greek, which is a language I work with a little bit, because the Christian New Testament is in Greek, there's not one word for love. In English, we have one word for love, right? Greek has lots of different words for love. There's like the kind of love which associates with sexual desire. |
2:01.6 | There's like kind of self-giving love. |
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