Two quick notes before the show. Thank you for sending all your friendship story ideas and

questions for this season. You give us a lot to chew on and I really feel like this season is

a collaboration with everybody who wrote in. And one topic we got a lot of questions about was how

to make friends as an adult. So we're teaming up with author and connection coach Cat Velo's

for a virtual event on Thursday, November 18th, 8 p.m. Eastern time. It's going to be fast paced

and interactive. Kind of like platonic speed dating. Hopefully you'll walk away with some tools

for sustaining and cultivating new connections. Tickets are on sale today and are probably going

to sell out fast. So if you're interested, head to mprpresents.org to register for the here to

make friends event and get more information. Also, a heads up that today's episode includes

strong language and descriptions of sexual activity.

From mpr, this is invisibility. I'm Kia Miyakanatees. And I'm Yo-A Shah. So we're going to start today

with a song I love about a friendship dilemma that is really at the heart of what this episode is

all about. Okay. It's by this artist named Moses Sumney. The song is called Em Blum. And it's

about this really beautiful and awkward tension that can show up in a friendship. So I'm going to play

my favorite part. So pretty. I know. And he says sometimes I want to kiss my friends. But then

you hear that there's this like tonal shift in the music and he sort of backpedals on it.

So he says you just want someone to listen to you who ain't trying to screw you. Yeah, I mean,

it feels like there's some universal law of friend dynamic. Once physical intimacy is involved,

somebody's going to get hurt. And it's like hard to stay friends.

Exactly. Because usually somebody likes somebody more than the other person.

Yeah, I get why people wouldn't want to risk it. I mean, whenever you introduce physical intimacy

to any relationship, but especially a friendship, it can feel like things are going to change

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