Hello and welcome to Friends Through a Lens, the podcast miniseries where I talk to my friends about the show Friends through the lens of their choosing.

My name is Karen O'Donohue and Knock Knock Who's There, it's Ross's lunch. And joining me is the holiday army to low herself.

It's Imogen West Nights.

Hello.

Nice to be here.

You love saying friends through a lens.

That is the whole reason this mini series exists.

Is that I started saying it to myself while rocking around my flash.

It's great.

It really keeps giving. I'm going to say it again, friends, through a lens.

Because I just think that we have talked so much about this show as a culture.

Because it's like, obviously, it finished 15 years ago. Then it went on Comedy Central.

Now everyone alive has seen 1,000 hours of it.

And all anyone can talk about is how gorgeous Jennifer Aniston's hair was.

It was.

How problematic it is.

And how much, drum roll please, everyone hates Ross.

Everyone hates Ross.

So the reason I'm here is that you and I were talking about this, and we both thought

the phrase Ross Apologist was of its own merits such a funny thing to say that I should

come on and try and defend Ross. Friends, through the lens of a Ross Apologist. And I have

always had a soft spot for Ross. And the thing about Ross, I looked this up. It is, you sort of know he's the most hated friend, but I looked it up and he really is the most hated friend. They would do polls, you know, back in the naughties and stuff. Of how people felt about all the friends or get people to rank them. And 70... It's so funny the most hated friend. The most hated friend. The friend who is bad. Quantifiable by data. 75% of people in certain polls would put Ross. And who would follow Ross? I think... Generally, moniker? Yeah, people didn't like moniker. The Gellas. The Gellas, they really were not an adored pairing,

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