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Okay. If you just start by telling us who you are, just introduce yourself.

I'm Joseph Carter Bab. You know, nephew of Richard Earl Bab.

What can you tell me about Richard Earl Bab?

Long time, dramatic, long time family member. He was like a dad to me.

I was my uncle Shadow. I even went to work with him, rode heavy equipment with him all day.

I mean, he just couldn't shake me, you know.

There's a lot of mean men out there, but me didn't mess with him.

If you did his family wrong, he was kicking your door in.

He didn't care. He wasn't scared to go to jail. He wasn't scared to probation. He wasn't scared to death.

He called himself an outlaw.

I didn't see him as an outlaw, but he had this saying, he goes, I don't want to be famous.

And he was. He was. Outlaws are giving it, you know, not giving him enough credit.

He got arrested a lot. A lot, drugs, alcohol, assault, driving without a license,

driving without a license, having an accident, fleeing the scene of an accident.

Just keeps going. I mean, he was an notorious thief.

At least all a bunch of fancy horse saddles. That was worth about 10 grand a piece.

And he used a lot of meth.

Oh, you have no clue. He could he could pop a gram in two days.

That's a lot of meth.

This uncle Joseph is talking about this infamous outlaw uncle Rick.

This is the man who walked into Laurie Anci's workplace and said he knew why Marty would have killed John-John because of drugs.

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