Friend Zone Edition

Care and Feeding | Slate's parenting show

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Parenting, Society & Culture, Kids & Family

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🗓️ 27 December 2018

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Gabriel Roth, Rebecca Lavoie, and Carvell Wallace are prompted by a Washington Post series of three stories about raising boys in the #MeToo era to discuss teenagers, modern masculinity, "the friend zone", and more. Plus a listener question about the grandparent's favorite kid, "Triumphs and Fails", and recommendations.

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0:00.0	The following podcast contains explicit language.
0:10.1	Welcome to Mom and Dad are finding Slate's parenting podcast for Thursday, December 27th, the
0:15.4	Friend Zone edition.
0:16.9	I'm Gabriel Roth.
0:18.2	I am the editorial director of Slate podcasts, and I'm the father of Eliza H8 and also Leo, who is four.
0:24.7	I'm Rebecca Levoy, a podcaster and journalist in New Hampshire, and I am mom to Henry, who is 17, Teddy, who is older than 15 and a half, and my stepdaughter, Lily, who is 18.
0:35.2	And I'm Carvel Wallace, a writer and podcaster in Oakland, California, and I'm the father to Georgia who is 13, and Ezra, who is 18. And I'm Carvel Wallace, a writer and podcaster in Oakland, California, and I'm the father to
0:39.1	Georgia who is 13, and Ezra, who is 15.
0:42.3	Today on our show, we're going to be talking about a feature that ran in the Washington Post
0:47.3	about growing up as a boy in this complicated time and how to raise boys to be good men.
0:53.9	We're also going to take a question from
0:55.9	a listener who has two children, one of whom is a lot chiller than the other. Plus, as always,
1:02.4	we'll have triumphs and fails. We'll make recommendations. And on Slate Plus, Carvel is going to
1:07.5	tell the story of a favorite family holiday tradition. But let's start with triumphs and fails.
1:14.0	Carvel, you've got to triumph for a fail.
1:16.2	I have a fail, which is the same fail that I have intermittently, which is I work too much,
1:22.3	and then thusly make terrible mistakes with my kids that stress them out.
1:25.8	And I had a year we're at year end and
1:30.1	being that it's the year end, it's like a lot of stuff has sort of come due at the same time.
1:35.4	And I've taken on a lot of deadlines and projects at the end of the year. And so, you know,
1:40.3	I did like this, like I did a bunch of pieces. And then, and then I had in in addition to the weekly column and the podcast, and it's like, it's been a lot through the months of November and December.
1:50.6	And I had a big long piece due for the New York Times Magazine, which is coming out in January.
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