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Friend.tech: The Legal and Tax Ins and Outs of This Year’s Hottest Crypto App - Ep. 540

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Friend.tech, a decentralized social media platform in which you can buy and sell “keys” in your friends on X (formerly known as Twitter) whose value can go up and down, has become a viral sensation, racking up as many as 100,000 users since launching on August 10. Should keys be considered securities and thus regulated by the SEC? How should gains and losses be taxed? And how private should users assume their communications and transactions on the platform are? Securities and banking law professor at George Mason Law School JW Verret, and tax partner and co-head of the Digital Assets and Blockchain Practice at Fried Frank Jason Schwartz, share their thoughts.  Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how Friend.tech works and how the price of keys is determined how Friend.tech is different from many other past attempts at creating a decentralized social media platform whether the keys offered by Friend.tech could be deemed securities by the SEC what wrapped Friend.tech tokens are and whether these could be considered securities why the traditional approach to crypto taxation is bad for most Friend.tech taxpayers what the tax implications of Friend.tech airdrops are what Friend.tech users should assume about their privacy on the app what the future holds for Friend.tech Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation Toku Guests: J.W. Verret, Associate Professor of Law at George Mason Law School Previous appearance on Unchained: Coinbase's Legal Action Against the SEC: How It Will Likely Unfold Jason Schwartz, tax partner and co-head of the Digital Assets and Blockchain Practice at Fried, Frank Friend.Tech Shows How Complicated Taxing Crypto Transactions Can Be by Jason Schwartz Links Unchained:  Friend.tech Threatens to Penalize Users That Move to Copies or Forks Friend.tech Clarifies That Database of 100,000 Users Was Not Leaked What Is SocialFi? A Beginner’s Guide The ‘Howey Test’ and the Debate Over Crypto's Legal Status - Crypto Security vs Commodity CoinDesk: Friend.tech Attracted NBA Influencers. So Why Does Everyone Think Crypto’s Latest Trend Will Die? Decrypt: Friend.tech Renames Its Token—But Is It Even Legal? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If I were defending, let's say, some key creator on friend.tech, what would the SEC try to claim?

0:07.0

I think it would be very hard for them to claim security status.

0:14.2

Hi everyone, welcome to Unchained, your Nohype resource for all things crypto.

0:18.3

I'm your host Laura Shin, author of The Cryptopians. I started covering crypto eight years ago and

0:24.1

as a senior editor at Forbes was the first mainstream media reporter to cover cryptocurrency full time.

0:29.5

This is the September 5, 2023 episode of Unchained.

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1:32.3

Today's topic is legal and tax issues around friend tech. Here to discuss our JW Verrett,

1:38.4

Associate Professor of Law at George Basin Law School, and Jason Schwartz,

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Tax Partner and Co-Head of the Digital Assets and Blockchain Practice at Freed Frank.

1:47.5

Welcome JW and Jason.

1:49.3

Good to be here. Good to be your Laura.

1:52.0

Let's start by having each of you give your backgrounds so the audience understands

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