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Made by Mammas: The Podcast

Friday Q&A on Surviving Life with a Narcissist with Kathleen Saxton

Made by Mammas: The Podcast

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🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

This Friday Q&A took us all by surprise!


Thinking narcissism was quite a niche topic, Zoe & Georgia were proven wrong by the sheer amount of questions we got about it from you listeners.


They sat down for an utterly riveting conversation with psychotherapist and author, Kathleen Saxton!


They discuss how to recognise a narcissist, creating boundaries and protecting your children from narcissistic traits and how Kathleen thinks the psychological abuse suffered by someone living with a narcissist should be taken more seriously by society!


Her book My Parent The Peacock is out now and you can visit Kathleen's website psychedventures.com for more information.


Find a new episode every Tuesday & Friday and in the meantime check out Made By Mammas on Instagram: @madebymammas.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Made by Mommas the podcast. I'm Zoe Hardman and I'm Georgia Dayton.

0:05.6

And this is your parenting safe space where no conversation is off limits.

0:10.1

With five kids between G and I, we have seen a lot.

0:13.0

We really have. Each week, we'll be joined by some famous faces and experts and we'll chat about the brands and products that have saved us along the way.

0:20.5

In short, we're the parenting podcast for you products that have saved us along the way. In short,

0:21.3

we're the parenting podcast for you. Before we get started, hit subscribe or follow so you're the first

0:26.3

to know when each episode lands. And they're on Tuesdays and Fridays. And it really helps if you

0:31.4

leave a rating and a review. You can also find us in Instagram. We're on at Made by Mummers.

0:35.9

But for now, George, should we get into it?

0:38.3

Hello and welcome to Friday's episode of the podcast. Now, I'm sure that we have all known a

0:43.0

narcissist, but what exactly are they? How do they impact us? What if we had a narcissistic

0:49.0

parent or a partner? And do we actually even know if someone that we love is one? Today, an expert on the

0:57.0

subject to answer all of your questions, psychotherapist and author is Kathleen Saxton.

1:02.4

Hello. Thanks for having me. This is, this subject has gone down really well on our

1:07.9

Instagram. We put questions out to our listeners to send in and I mean I thought

1:13.0

it was quite niche but it's really not. I think my publishers thought it was quite niche until we

1:17.9

actually released it. Yeah. Yeah. So just before we get into the chat, do you want to just give

1:23.1

the listeners a little bit of background on you and also like why you came to write a book like this book of course, thank you for asking. So I actually originally had a 30 year career in media.

1:32.0

I worked on the media side of the business for many, many years at Sky and capital and

1:35.4

various places. But I had a very, very difficult childhood. And so in my mid-20s, I went to

1:41.3

therapy for the first time, not really knowing much about it. And thankfully,

1:45.6

landed with an incredible therapist who really, really helped me. So for two or three years,

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