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But for now, George, should we get into it? It's Boxing Day motherfuckers. We're obviously not recording this on Boxing Day. No. But if you are listening on Boxing Day, I love that. Happy Boxing Day to you. Yeah, I'm glad we can be with you in your ears. And I hope that it's not too chaotic. This is the point in the podcast where we go, how are you all? Yeah. Because you've had Christmas Day, that's been done. And this is, I think this is the moment over Christmas where you're ridiculously full, probably quite hungover, probably wanting to kill some of the children. Yeah, tired. And you probably hate your partner. Yeah, and you don't have to get dressed, just so you know today.

You don't have to get dressed at all.

Yeah, no, you really don't have to.

So if you are debating that, then don't, I'd say. You just dropped a bit of a bombshell that you might actually just be jetting off to Saudi. Yeah, I'm awkward. I hope my friend doesn't listen to this and I've backed out by then. No, I was thinking about it.

Well, you just said you're going to Kenya, so you can, you know.

Oh, no.

Yeah, you're going to Kenya, so you can, you know.

Oh, no.

Yeah, you're going to Kenya.

And we keep sort of thinking about going, like, to see friends there.

But it is such a different, it's not like a holiday holiday.

Like, you can't go around the pool and all of that.

So I've always been really aware that if we go, we would have to stay with them for most of the time. We might go off and do like a couple of like different trips. There's no alcohol in Saudi. No, there's no alcohol in Saudi. Yeah, it's a different trip. So we've always put it off. But James has got time off over christmas so have i maybe we'll just go

for a few nights i mean 100% you should yeah what does mark's mark right's mom say yolo

yolo yellow yellow yeah maybe who knows so i might be preparing for that or i might not

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