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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Friday Night Special: Shocking New Delphi Killer Conversations Revealed

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

3.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

The jury took two minutes from entering the courtroom to announce the verdict: Richard Allen, guilty on all charges.

Allen was convicted of felony murder for Abby Williams and Libby German, as well as for knowingly and intentionally killing both girls. Judge Gull maintained order in the courtroom, where there were no outbursts, but outside on the streets of Delphi, shouts of "Guilty on all charges" echoed.

 The jury, composed of seven women and five men, heard 17 days of testimony, including dozens of witnesses, disturbing jailhouse videos of Richard Allen, and photos of Abby and Libby as they were found at the crime scene.

They deliberated for 19 hours over parts of four days to reach a unanimous verdict. Richard Allen was found guilty of four counts: two counts of felony murder and two counts of knowingly and intentionally killing Abby Williams and Libby German.

Delphi residents tell reporters that they are still in shock after learning that local pharmacy tech Richard Allen has been charged in the 2017 murder of teens Liberty German and Abigail Williams.

Photos of Allen in a local bar with the police sketch of the murder suspect posted on the wall behind him have surfaced.

We have also learned that while at work, Allen developed photos of the girls, to be used at their funeral, for the families at no charge. 

Police say Allen came forward as a witness in the early days of the investigation, but nothing at that time linked him to the crime.  Now a new book details admissions Allen made to his mother. 

Joining Nancy Grace Today:

  • David Yoder - Richard Allen's former neighbor  
  • Fran Longwell - Former Deputy State’s Attorney (Calvert County, MD), Former Assistant State’s Attorney (Prince George’s County, MD) specializing in child abuse, sex offenses and homicides
  • Caryn Stark - NYC Psychologist; Twitter: @carynpsych, Facebook: "Caryn Stark"
  • Sheryl McCollum - Forensic Expert, Founder: Cold Case Investigative Research Institute in Atlanta, GA.; @ColdCaseTips 
  • Dr. Todd M. Barr - Board-Certified Anatomic/Clinical/Forensic Pathologist (Ohio), Featured in "Thin Places: Essays From In Between" by Jordan Kisner; Twitter: @ToddBarrME
  • Max Lewis - Reporter, FOX59 (Indianapolis); Twitter/Instagram: @MaxLewisTV, Facebook.com/MaxLewisTV 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:05.0

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:11.2

Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace, and it's Friday night. You know what that means? I've got a Friday night special for you.

0:19.7

Delphi Killer Richard Allen. The evidence just keeps

0:24.4

piling up. We're learning things now. We didn't hear at trial. Now, what will all the

0:31.6

haters say? All the trolls online that said the jury got it wrong. The judge was wrong. The prosecutors were wrong.

0:40.4

The victims' families. Oh, they were wrong. Susan Hendricks, who covered the case, she was wrong.

0:46.4

I'm wrong. Everybody's wrong. And Richard Allen is right. Not so quick. Tonight we are learning about chilling comments.

0:59.1

Richard Allen made after Liberty and Abby were killed, murdered, and before he was arrested, to an individual, a witness that you would think

1:17.1

would do anything to cover for Richard Allen, her own son.

1:24.0

I'm Nancy Grace.

1:24.9

This is crime stories.

1:26.2

I want to thank you for being with us. Convicted Delphi

1:29.4

double killer, Richard Allen, local pharmacy tech, makes chilling statements to his own

1:36.0

mother after he murders Libby and Abby and before, long before he is arrested. Of course, when the two best friends, Abby and Libby,

1:47.6

didn't come home from the local hiking trail, Delphi residents dropped everything they were doing

1:55.6

to help find the girls. And then their worst nightmares came true. The girls' bodies mutilated were discovered

2:06.4

in the woods the next day. But now we learn one person, a 45-year-old pharmacy tech, a husband,

2:16.4

a father, a son, was making really weird comments

2:21.2

about the murders and trying to talk his own relatives out of joining the searches. I didn't

2:30.7

know that at trial. This is all new. And we're learning it all from a brand new book, Shadow of the Bridge, the Delphi

2:39.6

murders, and the dark side of the American heartland.

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