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The Next Big Idea

FRICTION: How Smart Leaders Make the Right Things Easier (with Adam Grant & Bob Sutton)

The Next Big Idea

Next Big Idea Club

Self-improvement, Arts, Books, Society & Culture, Education

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Today, Adam Grant and Bob Sutton, two legends of organizational psychology, discuss Bob’s new book, “The Friction Project: How Smart Leaders Make the Right Things Easier and the Wrong Things Harder.” 🎙️ This interview first appeared on Adam’s podcast, “ReThinking.” Follow it now on Apple Podcast or Spotify. 📱 If you love the show, the best way to let us know is by becoming a Next Big Idea Club member. Learn more at https://nextbigideaclub.com/ and use code PODCAST to get 20% off your subscription.

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LinkedIn presents.

0:05.0

I'm Rufus Griskam and this is the next big idea.

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Today, how smart leaders make it easier to get things done. We have something special for you today, a conversation between two of the world's

0:38.4

leading organizational psychologists. The first is someone you may recognize the legendary Wharton professor and

0:45.2

best-selling author Adam Grant, who is one of our four curators here at the Next Big Idea Club.

0:51.9

The second is another heavyweight in the field, Bob Sutton.

0:56.0

In his 40 years on the Stanford faculty,

0:58.8

Bob co-founded the University's Center for Work, Technology,

1:02.0

and Organization, the Stanford Technology

1:04.5

Ventures program, and the Haso Plattner Institute of Design, better known as

1:09.6

the D School. He also found time to write best-selling books including The No-Ass-O-rule and scaling up excellence.

1:18.4

Here's Adam to tell you more.

1:21.0

Hey next big idea listeners, it's Adam Grant.

1:24.0

As you might know, every season my friends Malcolm Gladwell, Susan Kane, Dan Pink

1:28.0

and I hand pick our two favorite new non-fiction books.

1:31.6

And then the Next Big Idea Club sends them right to your door.

1:35.2

This season one of our picks is the Friction Project, how smart leaders make the right things

1:39.6

easier and the wrong things harder by Bob Sutton and Huggy Rao. I recently had Bob

1:45.0

on my podcast, Rethinking, and we're sharing it here as well for you. I think

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you'll enjoy it.

1:51.7

The LinkedIn Podcast Network is sponsored by TIAA. TIA makes you a retirement promise, a promise of a

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guaranteed retirement paycheck for life.

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