Frenemy at the Gates: Part 2 (Ronnie Karam on Summer House, Housewives, and more)
Andy's Girls: A Real Housewives Podcast
Sarah Galli
4.3 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 16 June 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
The journey continues. Over the course of this two-parter, Sarah and AG guest cohost Ronnie Karam ("Watch What Crappens") unpack behind the scenes of Bravo podcasting (war stories/survival guides), mourning OG RHONY (and what happens when a franchise jumps the shark), how to hold multiple truths/queries during an age of Bravo scandal, the problematic nature of fueling a 'victim' narrative about Amanda that comes at the cost of Ciara's humanity (and accountability), West's particularly noxious 'aww shucks' energy, a 'to-be-continued' on the Summer House reunion, a reading of Jesse Solomon's timeline, and more. Summer House continues tonight, so just consider the cloffice a Hubb House extender - it's Andy's Girls, Episode 807! Part 2!
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | And we're back. |
| 0:04.0 | Do you think that there was a part of her, like, extrapolating the victim of it, but kind of subverting it a little bit? |
| 0:12.0 | Do you think that there was a part of her that's like, I've been hurt, now it's my time to hurt somebody else? |
| 0:16.7 | Not the hurt people, hurt people necessarily, but like I've been betrayed. |
| 0:22.4 | Now I have a fun little secret. |
| 0:24.1 | Maybe, but there's also the part, maybe there's also another part that's like, |
| 0:28.6 | everybody's so blasé about Kyle doing it because it happened before they were married. |
| 0:33.8 | And then this other video, we don't know if there's a video, we've never seen this video. And I think a lot of people like Kyle so much that they've just minimized, myself |
| 0:43.6 | included, I'm sure, have kind of minimized it over the years because Amanda comes off as this |
| 0:48.6 | whiny, you know, and it's misogynistic to say, like I hear what I'm saying, but I think in the |
| 0:54.9 | audience's mind, it's like you've got this girl who's always whining, and then you've got the fun guy, and he's getting away with everything. And I think this flippant attitude that everybody has given Amanda of, like, what's the big deal? So he went out and got drunk and made out with someone, who cares. I don't think Amanda really thought she was fucking anybody over. |
| 1:13.1 | Honestly, I think in Amanda's mind, she's, because even her answers in the reunion are like, |
| 1:17.8 | I shouldn't be allowed to follow my feelings. |
| 1:21.1 | Like, I'm sorry if I felt for someone that it was wrong, but I should have a right to |
| 1:25.7 | have my feelings for a guy. And I think that flippant |
| 1:29.3 | attitude that maybe the audience, we as the audience have had, has kind of made her think, like, |
| 1:34.8 | what's the big deal? You know? I don't know that it's, um, by the way, I'm just talking this out. |
| 1:41.2 | I don't even know if I think that. Oh, literally welcome to Andy Scrolls. I don't know what I'm saying, which is abundantly clear. |
| 1:47.3 | This is like the joy of stream of consciousness. |
| 1:49.0 | I recorded an episode earlier today and I was like, |
| 1:52.0 | when I was saying something out loud about me, |
| 1:54.1 | I was like, can we talk this out? |
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