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We all have heroes, but we don't usually get to meet them, let alone work with them.

I'm Anstrein-champs, and we've got a story today, a conversation about working with a dream team, the heroes of 20th century physics.

Our story begins in the 1930s in Great Britain.

This was a time when if you were a kid with a big dream and a big brain, you did not go into science.

The time when I grew up, which was in the 30s, science was very unpopular.

Science was responsible for the horrors of World War I,

and especially the chemists, of course, with chemical warfare.

That was so horrible.

So science, when I was in high school, only the dumb kids would take science.

It was so taken for granted. If you're really capable, you'd do Latin and Greek.

If you're second rate, you'd do French and German.

And if you're a third rate, you'd do science.

Meet Freeman Dyson.

He grew up to be a legendary scientist, who's a friend and colleague of the giants, the people who split the atom, built the nuclear bomb, and refined quantum theory.

Today, he's almost 93 years old.

He's no longer an active scientist, but he is still affiliated with the place that has been his intellectual home for six decades,

Princeton's famed Institute for Advanced Study.

Steve Paulson talked with him for Nautilus magazine, and here's their full conversation.

I want to start out by taking you back to your very first dreams of becoming a scientist when

you were a child. When did you first fall in love with numbers?

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