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Capehart

‘Freedom of speech, but not freedom of action’: Two moms on raising black boys

Capehart

The Washington Post

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2018

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Tai Hall, author of "#LunchboxChronicles," and Margaret Capehart, Jonathan Capehart's own mother, share an intergenerational conversation about raising black boys — 40 years apart.

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0:00.0

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0:14.8

Hey everyone, this is Jonathan Kapart and welcome to Cape Up.

0:29.0

Ty Hall is the author of Lunchbox Chronicles, raising a conscious black boy in America

0:34.7

about guiding and teaching her 11-year-old son about life. Margaret Kapart is a retired nurse

0:41.2

and my mom. These two black women came together to have an

0:45.0

intergenerational conversation about raising black boys 40 years apart. Things

0:50.6

have changed but so much remains the same.

0:53.4

Hear what they have to say about their fears of the police,

0:56.3

their own experiences with racism,

0:58.7

and how they taught their sons how to deal with it.

1:01.9

What you're about to hear was one of the most nerve-wracking

1:04.6

interviews I've ever done, one where a simple question brought my mom to tears. This is a very special episode of the podcast and intergenerational discussion

1:19.6

between two moms raising black sons.

1:23.2

One son is 11 years old.

1:25.7

The other's son is 50.

1:27.9

One is named Ty Hall, the mother of Cordell.

1:31.2

The other is Margaret Kapart, the mother of Cordell, the other is Margaret Cape Heart, the mother of Jonathan, me.

1:36.6

This is going to be either really great for the listener or a personal disaster for me or

1:40.8

both.

1:41.8

But welcome to K-pop, welcome to the podcast.

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